Forum talk:Video Policy Discussion/archive/@comment-4085927-20120211150055

I agree that we shouldn't care about links to TO like hero said he gets 90% of his views from else where. So assuming hero is correct in that figure, only 2 million people from the wiki have watched his videos. Pretty small when you consider we receive around 1-2million views a week and around 3-6 million during updates. Then when you use some logic you realize the amount of people who listen/care would be max 25% and then most wouldn't want to learn how to use a new wiki especially when the wikia skin is so friendly to newbies opposed to the skin the official wiki uses so it would be max 10% which is a loss of 200k users. Remember i have been quite generous with my figures, well thats what i believe.

Also this debate/discussion seems to be getting a bit de-railed, the focus seems to be getting put on an issue that isn't really in play. We are far from deciding the fine print, we need to get the structure decided.

Personally i think we need to be working out how and who can add videos. As we can't just say go for it as people will keep updating perfectly good videos with there own. In many cases the new video that will be worse than the previous version. Like what are we going to do if a user decides there videos are great (truth is they suck) and they replace pretty much all the videos with theres? or when a user does this who makes good videos? Are we just going to allow the most dedicated person to keep the videos on the page, as in the person who comes back daily to re-add all there videos? How will we decide who gets to add there video when 2 videos are of equal quality? Should a number limit be put on how many videos a user can have on content pages to prevent a user adding there videos to every page then warring with other users?

Also something i don't think thats been mentioned is videos on blogs, users pages and talk pages. I think these are all fine as long as the videos are added using youtube tags. I also believe that only videos used on content pages should be allowed to be uploaded to the wiki.

Hero i don't think math was trying to make a smear campaign. You have only recently added the links to your videos and i have never seen you mention the wiki on your youtube channel. Also regarding the youtube handbook, thats great for youtube but this is a wikia where advertisements are generally deleted as spam. I just picked a random video and about 1/6 of it is you advertising your channel and your other videos which i think is over the top. Hero there is currently 35 links to TO, some on the most popular pages, yet people still come and they still comment on those pages so whats there to worry about really? They're clearly not racing off to the official wiki, you also have to accept the fact people some people will prefer the official wiki to ours no matter what we do here. TO has many resources that terraria players want so its stupid for us to act like the site doesn't exist, if we in-brace it they may take the step to front page the wiki or some of the content on it. We need TO, without it we can't source half of our update info which without sources, we look stupid. I'm sure any user who includes a link to TO in there videos description would be willing to add one to here as well, i think any reasonable person would consider that a fair compromise especially since it will help them to gain more views.