User:Mathmagician/sandbox

Comment thread started by Gracey91 I feel this user would make a good canidate but many of the things they have done causes me to quetion how they will function as an admin on the wiki. Such as i have seen the pathogen making test edits to widely used templates that caused the template stop showing all infomation, he has also added things that make no sense and i'm assuming has forgotten to remove them. I also don't like how he reacts to vandals and people who complain, telling people to GTFO is not something an admin should say to anyone. That said if the user is willing to think about what they are doing a bit more like with the test edits and if they are willing to take the time to learn more about media wiki software i will support this. Pathogen i have nothing agaisnt you, you have always been a great help its just the very occasional questionable edits that concerns me. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 08:05, February 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Edit: Well, after reading up on Gracey's opinion, I actually feel quite insulted. The edits I've made to templates have (on occasion) affected the way they display on the wiki, but that's not to say that he hasn't done the same in past. I've been quite obviously using the ForTesting wiki lately to test these ideas, and I've even managed to successfully set up a rarity #switch system for the infoboxes. Some of the things I insert may not make sense to you, but they almost always have an important or proper function, if they don't it's likely that I was midway through an edit and had to leave it half-done (Due to events occurring IRL). I think in the case of me saying "GTFO", that's not to be condoned, I know. I prefer to keep a calm and careful conscience as often as possible so that I may help in all situations. All of my edits have always been in good faith, and I'm sure many can attest to that. I honestly don't believe you when you say you have nothing against me, I'm sure you and others can guess why, as I'd rather not make the reason public. Thanks, and have a nice day.


 * If you want to be nominated, people are expected to bring up your flaws. Also don't bring up things hero came up with, you never even asked me about that. I think that clearly shows you don't listen to both sides before making a decision, not a good trait for an admin to have. I presented you with a clear diff that shows you completely disabled all parameters for the template, that is a crazy edit that does a lot of damage to all pages the template is on. Trying to claim i have done the same is a lie. The switch function you added to the monsters infobox is completely wrong, that isn't how the switch function works and what you have added, i can't get to do anything. You shouldn't be making these little test edits to templates on the wiki, if you have to run off IRL thats your problem and the wiki shouldn't have to suffer since you were to lazy to do the work else where then copy over a 100% correct edit. If you read my first message you will see i clearly stated i would be willing to support, i just wanted you to realize what your doing a bit more and to think about it. The fact you choose not to even ask me about that picture and yet you hold it against me shows you aren't a candidate who can be impartial and therefore wouldn't make a good admin. I am changing my vote to oppose as the user clearly can't be impartial and isn't willing to get both sides of a story. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 07:24, February 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * That edit was made a long time ago, Gracey. Long before I gained the knowledge of templates I now have. Also, changing your vote to opposed is simply because of the reason I stated on your talk page. I'm not impartial in this matter, as you aren't either. I heard both sides before making my decision, and as I said before, you can ask Math or Dzy about it to confirm it. I actually have small problems in the family that require fixing from time to time, thank you. I'd appreciate it if you respected that rather than trying to make a joke out of it. Again, I'm quite offended by what you're saying here, and I won't tolerate such judgement. You're doubly making a point that isn't true, because I knew both sides of the story before I decided on my PoV. I never once sided with Hero, nor with you, I chose my own point of view, which I still sit at.


 * I changed to oppose since you can't get over the past and choose to bring it up for nothing. Your further words have reinforced that decision on my part. "I chose not to ask you anything because I didn't judge it worth my time. I know you have a problem with me, it's blatantly obvious, it's a lot easier if you just admit it, too." Is this how you plan to act as an admin too? Will you judge it worth your time to do your job and resolve issues or will you just ignore them and bring them up against the users when you need? I didn't make any jokes, if you did it in a sandbox it wouldn't be an issue as you could do what ever you need to do when ever with it causing issues on the wiki, thats what i meant. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 13:01, February 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd just like to say that due to the personal nature of Gracey's opposition to my nomination, I think it's quite unfair that it be counted. It can be checked that I've been using the ForTesting wiki to test edits for a while now, and also that change that Gracey noted was reverted (by me) mere minutes after it was made. I'd honestly like Sannse's opinion in this matter, because it's greatly troubling to me. I'm certain that I can call on Mathmagician and Dzylon to back me up on the call that I've made no edits that threaten the wiki, that my intentions have always been good, I'm an impartial person (except in cases such as this, where it's a blatant attack on my personal integrity), and that I only act for what I believe to be in the best interests for the Terraria Wiki and its community. I'm saddened to see a former admin stooping to such a level, just because he has a problem with me. Path out.

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 10:03, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I want to make it clear that I see Gracey's words as an attempt at constructive criticism, not as an intentional attack on Pathogen. That being said, some of those words were poorly chosen, and I am not surprised if Pathogen is offended. I have asked both parties (via their talk pages) to keep the discussion calm if there are things remaining to be said.