User talk:Gracey91

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Be polite Assume good faith Be welcoming Peoples are not allways polite, But swearing in the comments and trolling the pages is just rude! I just cleand the dungeon brick page, it was messed, someone would propably want to clean it well. Sakkeman 20:40, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Gracey, I was just wondering (since it said it on the automated post), what would be needed on the Wiki? As far as I can tell, quite a lot of the content is covered, and covered very well. I look forward to helping however I can. --Mr.Buckethat, esquire. 16:49, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

hey thanks for the help but i need more meteroite and all of my shadow orbs and meteors ran out so is u have aserver i could get some stuff on that would be great Iliketerraria 04:26, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Multiple Page Edits
Hey there Gracey, hope you're well. I'd just like to apologise for repeatedly editing so many pages. My slow internet speed (which will be fixed in 3 days) seems to mess up the editor's perception of my edit content at times... But yeah, I'll try keep it more under raps. 12:35, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Gracey91, why does it say that I'm banned for spamming links to other web pages? I haven't spammed a single link to anything. 195.229.236.212 11:46, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Little bit of Confusion
Heya Gracey, hope your new year's going well so far. I just thought I'd mention a slight Achievement glitch that I noticed; The wiki gave me two "Bridge Builder" badges, probably due to the speed with which I added the categories. 09:56, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey Path, everythings been pretty good. How about you, having fun? With the badge, thats strange i will notify wikia staff about it. Wikia has quite a few issues with a number of its features as i'm sure your aware, so this may just fix itself in a bit. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 10:05, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's good to hear, it's been pretty good on my end, catching up with friends before school comes back in, heh. Guess we'll have to wait and see if Wikia figures itself out then. In the meantime I guess I have no reason to complain ^_^ 10:07, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/Video:Trolololol It seems someone is griefing the Videos. Koggeh

Hey my friend i am wanting to turn the front page into a news feed. so that i can cover something then the next thing i cover gets pushed to the top and everything cycles down. any ideas?

Ey i just wanna let you know that no one can edit "Hellstone bars" and i was wondering if you could change that...

well i mean similar to the the feed on the terraria forum.

and also i belive i am starting a forum for the wikiHeroGaming 09:22, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi, thanks for the tip... I had no idea that page even existed. I'm still kind of getting the hang of things, so please excuse me if I do anything retarded.

Also, I came up with some ideas for a new wiki background, and notified Dratini, but I have no idea exactly how active he is, and if/when he'll even see it. I do know, however, that you are incredibly active, and I thought I'd notify you as well. Check out the New Background section of Dratini's talk page if you're interested.

Disregard this, got your message right as I published it. Sorry.

Dzylon 10:58, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Coins Infobox
You should change the copper coins image on the Coins Infobox from that of a hundred to one, to make it fit in better with the others. I would do it myself, but apparently it's protected. The replacement image I had in mind was item_71.png.

Dzylon 02:54, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Motion for Individual Pages and Consistency
Gracey,

It is the precedence on this wiki that some pages contain information for multiple (but highly related) items and monsters. After thinking about it for a while, I would like to challenge this notion by making the following proposition:
 * Each and every single item and monster in the game be given its own page
 * Conglomerate pages such as Watch or Slime Monsters would become disambiguation pages that link to each individual item/monster page. Or, if there is sufficient information for a content page, then the conglomerate page would become a content page that links to each individual page while also summarizing key points and concepts (Writing only on the general content page, no infoboxes. Infoboxes for each individual item go on each individual page).
 * Each item/monster page would contain links to each of the other related pages
 * This proposal would not apply to concepts/game features/etc. Only to monsters and items.
 * For consistency, I would like to apply this even to the Pressure Plate page. Each pressure plate is technically a separate item and they do have different pictures and names, even if the stats are the same.

I present the following reasons for proposing this change:
 * This layout would more accurately represent the game itself, while also eliminating any possible confusion as to which items are related and should go on the same page, and which ones aren't related enough to go on the same page.
 * Individual pages would be quicker and easier to read, because less information would be on each page and readers wouldn't have to waste time (even if it's just a few seconds) deciding what information pertains to which item.
 * Each individual item/monster should have its own infobox. A single infobox that contains information for multiple items/monsters does not look very pretty, especially when the items/monsters have different stats. Also, pages with multiple infoboxes do not look as clean as pages with a single infobox.
 * This design proposal is already in usage. Example: Repeaters and the 4 different repeater pages for each individual item. Also, any of the armor set pages and the pages for each individual piece of armor.
 * This proposal establishes a clear, reasonable and consistent standard to go by as new patches come out and the game expands.
 * The Terraria Online wiki generally adheres to this layout as well.
 * This project isn't too ambitious. The vast majority of this wiki uses this layout. I just want to make it absolutely consistent.

Potential issues and how this proposal addresses them:
 * Complete information for multiple items/monsters would no longer be in the same place. Links and disambiguation pages allow for quick and easy navigation.
 * The amount of redundant information could increase. Information common to multiple items would go on the disambiguation page (if there's only a little bit of info). If there's a lot of info in common, a general content page would be used instead of a disambiguation page. Only information specific to a particular item would go on that item's page.

Should you find this proposal agreeable, I can do all of the necessary work of moving information, creating new pages, linking everything appropriately, etc. I would not be adding or removing any information or doing any sort of editorial work (although I suppose I might quickly check for grammar and spelling). Only moving things around. I would also probably maintain a "project status" blog entry, which would contain a list of all pages created/changed as well as the ones I'm still intending to work on.

Mathmagician ( Σ talk ♥ blog ∞ contributions ) 04:11, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey i agree with your proposal, you welcome to go ahead. One question but you mention you don't like multiple infoboxs on pages, so how do you plan on dealing with boss pages like The Twins? Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 04:38, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( Σ talk ♥ blog ∞ contributions ) 04:11, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was just thinking about the lack of disambiguation pages a few days ago, and would gladly help out with this project, if you'd like.

Dzylon 04:44, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay thanks, I'll get right on that then. Very good point you bring up. I would make an exception for The Twins. I see The Twins as a single boss entity, and the pieces are sort of like the segments of worm enemies. (It would be silly to make individual pages for segments of a worm, since they are part of the same monster.)


 * I'm not entirely against having multiple infoboxes on the same page, it's just that the current implementation of infoboxes only allows them to float on the right.. and when there's a bunch of that it's not pretty in my opinion.


 * Perhaps in the future, infoboxes could be modified so that a parameter could be used to float it at a specific location. For example, I think The Twins be also improved by floating the infoboxes next to each other left/right, rather than above/below. And/or maybe a formatting template could be created to facilitate the placement of multiple infoboxes on the same page.


 * The pages that I want to change are not special cases like this. I'm talking about things that are obviously separate items/monsters, like the different colors of watches that have different stats and crafting recipes, or like pressure plates or dungeon bricks. These items may be related, but they do not stack together and they are not part of a single entity like Retinazer/Spazmatism forming the Twins.


 * Mathmagician ( Σ talk ♥ blog ∞ contributions ) 05:18, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll see what i can come up with. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 08:05, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

hiya buddy
sent you a message on youtube. to much internal business for the wiki talk to you later my friendHeroGaming 11:08, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Tim here again
Thanks for the earlier help, I have another question and a suggestion. Question being how do I review available infobox templates and what information points they contain? Suggestion being, could we change "Continuous Attack" in the Weapons infobox to "Style" where the options could be "Click to attack" and "Automatic" or something to that effect? "Continuous Attack" seems a bit long-winded for an infobox given the size constraints and there is always that chance they'll incorporate some other method for attacking. Thanks in advance! Tmetcalfe89 19:43, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the message.

hey Btw. if you see that i edited the mythril sword saying that it might be weaker, I didn't have a mythril sword and relied on the wiki, which 3 hours later I noticed that the information was false. so someone has put the wrong information on the mythril sword about DMG. just to let you know. I would change it but i sold my mythril sword because it didn't auto swing and i had a godly cobalt sword so i don't know the information anymore.

If you played terraria to hardmode, what was the best way to get rid of corruption and hollow. because I've been building on my map and all that trying to stop it and te corruption already covering 14 pecent and is increasing exponentially.

A Request For An Admin
Gracey, we both know that there is a user that is an incredible influence on the wikia. That user is Mathmagician Math has helped many pages, made many walkthroughs to help MANY players, & is generally just a grand assistance to the wikia. So for the love of god why ISN'T Math an admin?! Signed, Koggeh

My Apologies
You may have noticed I've been making multiple edits to the same pages. It may seem like I'm trying to run up my edit count, but I'm really not... you can reduce that to zero for all I care. I'm just a little OCD, and every time I publish an edit, my mind finds something else I can do to improve the page in some way, or make it look nicer somehow. I'm sorry if I'm spamming the edit history with countless edits.

Also, +1 on the Mathmagician admin proposition above.

Dzylon 21:48, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Blog Posts
I wrote a blog post, but it's not showing up here. Does it just take time to load the changes, or did I not do something right?

Dzylon 01:06, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

hey i want to add a steam group to the front page but i want you to add it so it fits in with your new front page. terrariaonline has a steam group with 20k people in it so we shoudl have one. retty much everything is taken teraria wiki related for names so i just went with http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ythero because im goign to use the steam group on youtube too. so basically it will be a group on whatever wiki because i dont wanna have 20 groups down the road. also going i am making us a facebook page aswell for people to like so we can mobolize them there aswell. more marketing that i should have set up way sooner.HeroGaming 12:50, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Gracey i really need help, on steam when it says buy terraria when I buy it what version will it give me the oldest so I have to update it or the newest so i don't because I want to buy it and I don't really know how to update it so can you tell me how to update it in detail and if it gives me the newest or oldest version? please respond as soon as you can and if anyone else see's this can you help pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

The Video was an accident, it IS my fault yes but the video wasn't. Taneer gave me the video link. I do NOT blame Taneer in any way, shape, or form & I will make sure I shall not incorrectly use the video system again. Koggeh

Images in templates
Hey Gracey, um for the twins pics, a few things to say. Before I couldn't figure out how to put them in, but I figured it out. That night I did it, I talked to Dratini17, the founder, and I figured it out, BUT I FORGOT TO LOGIN WHEN I DID IT! D; But it was done. Btw sorry about the Eye of Cthulhu pic uploading, I just thought I didn't upload it right, and I didn't know it was against the policy, so sorry about that. Oh and has Hero ever made a building vid? If it is alright with all of the admins and Hero, then I would love to have Hero make a building vid of my buildings. So again, sorry about the EoC pics, bye.

Hellexarus 17:26, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

hey, question
So, I was helping Math with his Indivisual Projects...project, and I was going to work on the bricks. but I noticed that the page said they had been deleted in June of last year. Should i just leave them as they are, or fill them out? (Blue Brick, Green Brick, Pink Brick, sorry for no links.) Thanks. :3

Edit: Dzlyon found a way around it, and put the page not created link for Blue on my Blue Wall page, and Im assuming he did the same to Pink and Green. So I guess Ill just work on them. heres a copy of the log though:

20:26, July 28, 2011 Zenofire (Talk | contribs) deleted "Blue Brick" ‎ (content was: "")

KaeKai 23:59, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

New Images
Several items are missing from the Picture Database. I'm adding a few for the Disambig project, so please don't delete them. I did notify Kiruwugaka, but I'm not sure if he's active anymore. These images were created from the game files (same way he made them) so they look identical to how they would look if he had made them instead. Just letting you know. They do still need to be added to the database itself, though, but only he has the rights to edit that page (if I'm not mistaken). The images are in the new photos section if you want to take a look.

Dzylon 00:19, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Formatting with Collapsible Tables
It looks like you noticed the formatting issue that Collapsible Tables are causing. Suggestion: perhaps we could just add the template into the collapsible tables template itself (at the top, so that the table automatically clears everything), rather than trying to add it to every single page? I'd do it myself, except I haven't had a chance to look at exactly how the collapsible tables work, so I'm not sure how or even if it's possible or not. Mathmagician ( Σ talk ♥ blog ∞ contributions ) 05:16, January 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey i had the same idea, and it does work. So all the templates should clear correctly. Let me know if you see any that are still creeping up. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 05:36, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Welcome, Axelskox
Thank you for the warm welcome. I quite enjoy Terraria, and I hope I can actually contribute to the site. I don't usually have much time to spend online, but I can guarantee that some of it will go to this wiki if something comes up. Anyhow, thank you, again, for the kind, warm welcome.  ~ Axelskox 05:51, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation Project Query
Hey Gracey. As you know, me and Math (and a few others) have been working on the disambiguation project, and it is nearing completion. We would like a second opinion as to whether or not to disambig these or leave them like they are.

Edit: so you know, me and Math have both agreed that they should be disambiguated (is that a word?), but we'd still like a second opinion.

Phasesabers

Phaseblades

Dzylon 23:18, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

thank you for your help, and again, sorry for the inconvenience. I look forward to working with you, and everyone else on this site, in the future if they're all as straightforward as you are.

absolutley i 100% agree i thought i was logged in on my facebook haha. sorry fixed and removed.HeroGaming 16:58, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Mainpage
That one is unused, so feel free to remove it. Mark ( talk ) 16:48, January 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 16:49, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Talk Pages
Hey, 3ICE reminded me about an issue that I haven't thought about in a while, and I thought it might be worth asking you about. Is there a particular reason why talk/discussion pages for editors aren't linked at the top of content pages like comments are on this wiki?

For example, 3ICE made a ton of changes to the Known Bugs And Glitches page. But, there were also a bunch of changes he was thinking about that he felt needed further discussion. Since there was no link to a talk page (e.g. Talk:Known Bugs And Glitches) at the top of the page, he resorted to posting his "discussion" as a series of comments. (That's not really what comments are meant to be used for, if you ask me.)

Could you maybe explain why we don't have talk pages for editors, and, if it's feasible, would you consider putting a link to talk pages at the top of content pages right next to the comments link? While I understand that there's not that many editors around here, I think it could still be helpful--especially for really large/important pages. Mathmagician ( Σ talk ♥ blog ∞ contributions ) 01:20, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Could you also take a moment to sift through our discussion? Thanks.


 * Hey the way it works is we can either have talk pages or comments(pages in certain namespaces can only use talk pages, such as Portal pages). So if we have one it hides the other. I'm not 100% sure on why we enabled them, it was before my time, but i imagine it was a community decision. So if you want talk pages to be un-hidden you would need to start a forum post where you would need to receive a lot of support. In all honesty i doubt people will want to get rid of the comments in place of talk pages. Additionally wikia are working to remove talk pages so they will all be replaced with a facebook style layout soon.


 * On the matter of using comments to discuss an issue with the page, thats what they are for, but i understand they do suck for the job. To over come this, you have to got to the talk page by changing your url. The talk pages are hidden but can still be accessed, there just hard for new people to get to. Say you want to use the Aglet talk page you would add Talk:Aglet to the url after /wiki/ so it would look like this. http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Aglet . But be warned, these pages could be permanently locked by staff as they push there new talk namespace.


 * On the matter of locking all talk pages, that would be a TOU violation but if we received a lot of support from our community wikia would allow it. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 05:40, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( Σ talk ♥ blog ∞ contributions ) 06:02, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay yeah the thought crossed my mind that it might not be possible to have both talk and comments at the same time. Yeah in that case the community here would definitely prefer comments, so that all makes sense. Thanks for answering my question. I also didn't know about wikia moving away from talk pages in favor of more of a facebook type layout. That's interesting.


 * They are yet to announce it, i know someone with a little ore info on the matter. But what they have announced so far is the "Message Wall", have you seen that? Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:12, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( Σ talk ♥ blog ∞ contributions ) 06:50, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't even know about that either. Just went and looked it up on the community central wiki. Message Wall looks so much better than User Talk in appearance and end-user friendliness =)


 * I personally think it destroys the talk namespace, and its non-wiki. I find it will only be good for new people who just want to use the site as a huge chat program. It will also make it easier to spam pages and its not as easy to clean up. If you look at it you will notice its not the same size as a content page so you can't use it like you could with a talk page. I use some wiki where we put a lot of content on talk pages, discussing policy, changes etc. With this it will make it impossible to do it as effectively. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 07:07, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

hey i uploaded a new photo for the background test it out and let me know what you thinkHeroGaming 10:30, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/File:Project4.jpg

here is a second version of it. i can also go smaller so that more is visible because i bleive only the top left and right pictures are actually viewable on most monitors. just fiddling around with some possibilities.HeroGaming 10:45, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Pic of Eye for User Avatar
Hey Gracey, hope your New Year is going great, having fun, stuff like that. Anyways, I was wondering, the pic of EoC that was against the img policy... would I be allowed to use it for my User Avatar? If not, then I just wanted to ask before I did it, and if yes, then great! See ya around. :D Hellexarus 20:33, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Version History
So you know, 1.1.2 has been released. The Version History page needs to be updated, and I would love to do it myself, but it's locked.

Dzylon 03:39, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Questions
Hey Gracey sorry to bug you again but I have some more questions if you don't mind. 1) Is it okay for me to edit the Picture Database or will Kiruwagaka be upset? I don't know how active he is lately and there's a few things that need updating there, as Dzylon and The Pathogen pointed out to me. Dzylon has already generated a few pics from the game files exactly identical to the ones in the database, so he knows what he's doing I think, we just need to get those added to the page. 2) Do we have some kind of organizational system for the little icons used on pages like Items that I'm not aware of? If not, can we make like an "Icon Database" for them (or add them to the Picture Database... but then that page would be too long imo) 3) I talked with Dzylon and Pathogen in the chat and the 3 of us agree that the Image Policy is kinda off. For 1 thing, full-sized screenshots should be allowed for blog posts/forums/etc as long as they're thumbed and as long as they stay off of content pages. Secondly, nobody names their photos "Terraria " and that's kinda silly because this IS the Terraria Wiki. Also Pathogen has recommended adding "Picasa Web Albums" as a trusted image source for externally hosted images.  4) I want to see if we can do some things to attract more editors to our site and also to help existing ones. To this end, I think we should create a basic "Editing Policy" (no adding videos, hero's videos are 350px, Green Slime should appear once at the top of the Green Slime page no more bolding after that, clarification on capitalization rules, use North American English (color > colour), Update Info goes in its own section, etc. etc.) Can talk more about this, lots of minute details to consider here. With this we have something we can point to and say "hey, please edit like this" when we see people doing things differently. (Also I'm going to be writing a series of blog posts for editors--fact not question, though I'll still appreciate your feedback when I'm done) 5) I'd like to create a forum thread called "Projects" and get another project sorta like the Individual Pages Project that we were doing earlier. I know we don't have too many editors around here, but if we can work together towards a common goal we can accomplish more. Do you support this idea? If so, what do you think needs doing around here (what should the next project be)? Thanks as always, Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 18:41, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't touch the picture database with out first talking to Kiruwagaka. I edited the crafting page when he was in control of it and he had quiet a sook. The image policy was written as you can see completely by me with no input although i did request it. I'll change it to allow the different sizes. I see no real reason to add this "Picasa Web Albums", we already support a number of sites and only a couple of people use hotlinked pictures.


 * With the name of the photos, you will find if you look into its not silly at all it allows us to take higher rankings in google by people finding pictures hosted on our site.


 * With the editing help, you can write it but few will read it, sorry to say. With the color > colour, we use color here. Is that what you meant?


 * With the forum is suggest you just use the ones that are there. There are already 6 forums here and 2 aren't even used. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 05:48, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify slightly, I was meaning to add it to the policy as a pre-approved site, as it's already free to be linked from. The images in my sig attest to that. 05:50, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * lol thats stupid as, remember how i had to add the tinypic site to that list so it would work. I'll adjusted it. Let me know if you find anymore that are already hotlinked. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:02, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is a little, isn't it? I'll surely say if I find any more, heh. Thanks

Math RE
Hey Gracey, I read all this and I understand and agree with what you're saying. Thanks. One thing I wanted to reiterate. Can we get this put here on the Terraria Wiki? (Just a rough draft, feel free to change it. Also notice how I separated the "advanced" stuff which is for the very few people who want to know more.) Also thanks for reading my blog and correcting my stupid rollback link. I'll get that fixed.

I want to put links to the (basic, not the advanced) policy here and also here so that it appears as a community message. I also want to move Community Messages above Hot Spots on Special:WikiActivity, but I'm not sure how to do that. P.S. I'm in the process of making a conscious effort to reduce my wall of text madness =P Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 21:19, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey i like the idea but i would like to move the first dot point on the advanced page to the basic page, as that's something that happens a lot. I also think we could expand the Advanced a bit more. Maybe add a toc and expand it quite a bit. Since like we need people to know how to add templates, mark pages for deletion etc as well.


 * With the policies i will move them to the policy page, with the community corner did you mean link to the Policy page or just link to the editing ones? Because we have the policy link in the navigation. With moving the community message above hotspots thats a breach of the sites TOU. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 05:35, January 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Btw i renamed a forum for you in case you didn't notice. Also what does this mean "P.S. I'm in the process of making a conscious effort to reduce my wall of text madness"? Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:08, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Reasonably Persistent Vandal
Hey there Gracey, long time since I've had to inform anyone about this right? This guy keeps vandalising the monsters page, thanks. 22:56, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Restoring Talk Page and Pictures in Source mode
Hey Gracey, I would just like to know how to restore my old talk page. And I also want to know how to add pictures in source mode.

Orion76 20:22, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Carrot and Pet Bunnies
These shouldn't be pages on the wiki yet. Taking advantage of built-in bugs is one thing, but information about registry key modification to get the collector's edition (maliciously reverse-engineering the game code imo) is a direct slap in the face to the developers that I simply cannot support. I've blanked and locked the pages with the intention that they be restored from the history and modified when the collector's edition is officially released. I'll let you override my decision if you disagree. (The reason I didn't do this earlier is because I didn't see the pages/wasn't aware they were being used primarily to disseminate reg key edit info.) Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 21:15, January 22, 2012 (UTC)