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= Vandal reports =

Same cause as already mentioned on July 18. Edited multiple pages adding false, duplicate or inapplicable information. Every edit was reverted to versions prior to Mrgreenslime's edits by different users. --DoubleFloat (talk) 17:36, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Most of those edits are frivolous and perhaps ill-advised, but not as overtly and deliberately disruptive as their previous block. They may be actually trying to contribute this time, so it may be best to have a word with them on their talk page rather than just blocking them again. If it keeps up after that, though, they'll be dealt with. Gearzein (talk) 18:02, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Mrgreenslime just left a comment on my talk page matching Gearzein's opinion. Seems I may have been to hasty requesting a block by forming my opinion based on the number and frequency of the edits rather than on their content. Please remove or disable this request if it's no longer needed for documentation. --DoubleFloat (talk) 18:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Vandalizing Spider Nest, first adding how Shadow Chests appear, and then changing it so that the Wall of Flesh may appear. I'm not about to get into another undo/delete war. 76.125.252.80 01:32, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked. –KM100 (talk) 02:14, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Vandalized Console Version a few times (replaced with inappropriate content) see page History. Kilcram (talk) 15:45, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Already blocked - 6 months beginning July 12th 2015. Equazcion  ( talk ) 15:47, 1 Aug 2015 (UTC)

Vandalized Frost Moon Page (different changes), uploading irrelevant images, vandalized Tin Bars, Tin Pickax Pages, and most recently, Eye of Cthulhu. Also vandalized Skeletron Head and somehow i am not able to revert it (see Skeletron head talk).
 * It takes a while for uploaded images to update across the wiki, about 5-10 minutes; the image has been restored. Images deleted, user blocked. Gearzein (talk) 11:46, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Vandalized Yoyo page by adding "derp" before each top column word. Created fake creature page about "Derp slime"
 * Blocked. Gearzein (talk) 13:14, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Vandalized several pages by changing drop rates to incorrect values and changing an image of the retinazer to the golem. Wymrite (talk)
 * Blocked.  Chrisf1020  (talk)  10:14, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Spammer of profanities, changes drop rates and other values.
 * Blocked (by KM100). Equazcion  ( talk ) 01:28, 3 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Changed images on Eye of Cthulu to wrong boss monster, changed stats on pages to ridiculous numbers, giving false information etc.--MCFUser7428 (talk) 18:25, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked.  Chrisf1020  (talk)  18:31, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Changed many pages and added subtile things like ":)" or "bruh" examples:   ... Or he/she simple added wrong information:
 * Blocked, eventually. Gearzein (talk) 14:17, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Spambot on Terraria_Wiki:Community_noticeboard -- SDGlyph (talk) 13:13, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked. Equazcion  ( talk ) 03:44, 11 Aug 2015 (UTC)

= Other Issues =

Curse rights for bureaucrat (merged from Curse noticeboard)
Hello, I am one of the two active bureaucrats of Russian Terraria Wiki. I wanted to know, can I appoint a Curse rights to me (I know it is possible at special page)? If not, where can I send a request to it. I need this right for the following functions: deleterevision, suppressrevision, mergehistory, hideuser, editprotected. Alex Great talk 09:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I know only people that work at Curse receive those user rights. --0icke0 (talk) 18:17, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This question is already resolved. It can be archived. ← Alex Great talk 03:26, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

"usermerge" right (merged from Curse noticeboard)
I can't find this right (at Russian Wiki). Where it is? At Special:UserGroupRights it exist for bureaucrats and Curse. But it doesn't shown at Special:SpecialPages. When I follow to Special:UserMerge this show me that this special page doesn't exist. Alex Great talk 09:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure if anyone pays attention to this page anymore. It's been sitting here for 4 years untouched (nearly) and I wasn't even aware it existed. I'd advise emailing wiki@curse.com instead. Equazcion  ( talk ) 10:04, 13 Jun 2015 (UTC)
 * On this wiki somebody had to rename an account? For example I need to rename user account of my bot. I mistaken and registered it on wrong mail. Alex Great talk 05:16, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * All right. I have solved this problem by myself. I do not need to merge accounts. Thanks for answer. Alex Great talk 05:39, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

↑ To archive. ← Alex Great talk 03:26, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Can't make Angry Bones/nl
hello everyone, i have trouble making the page Angry bones/nl, which is ment as part of the dutch translation project. when i click publish i get i notice saying the following:

"Warning! You are attempting to create a page for an item that currently exists, but has had a Modifier applied in your game. This page would be redundant, as it already exists here, and so its creation has been prevented. You can find the page for this item by removing only the first word of its name and searching for the item (e.g. Warding Platinum Watch would be found on the Platinum Watch page)"

this is incorrect as angry bones is an enemy type. so wat should i do? ill just keep the text with me for now. User: Superstrijder15
 * I've gone ahead and made the page: Angry Bones/nl. Since "Angry" is also a modifier, it was causing that issue. Hopefully this problem doesn't come up too often in the future. --KM100 (talk) 13:36, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

thank you KM100, i filled the page with the content i had made already, so now its about finished! User:Superstrijder15

Wood types
I guess this is a somewhat unfortunate time for this discussion, with the 1.3 release right around the corner, but as it may save time later I figured I post it now. In the current crafting row template we make an exception in case an item can use both Iron and Lead bars. Although something similar is the case for Sand (any type can be used) and Pressure Plates (any color can be used) it is not really needed there, as it only affects one item. However for Wood there are many recipes in which any type of wood can be used. I have been away for quite some time, so I don't know if there is a reason an exception has been made for Iron/Load Bars and not for Wood, but if we are gonna make an exception for wood it would be good to decide this before 1.3 release, so I can update my data extraction tool accordingly. That way we don't have to change it for the new pages afterwards. (On a side note, I won't be able to extract data till some hours after release, as I'm busy around release time.) --0icke0 (talk) 09:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * First of all, I'm glad you're here now to help with the volume of new pages :) and welcome back! I added the "lead/iron" option in the crafts template because we already had many pages where duplicate recipes were listed separately. I wanted to combine them and save space. I think the original reason both were listed was because of availability -- the original wood is available to everyone, whereas not everyone will see iron in their world. For those who might not know to look for the alternate, we list a recipe for what they would be seeing instead. Although I don't think it's quite as pressing of an issue, I'd be alright with doing some combination for wood if you want, and if it's space-efficient. Equazcion  ( talk ) 09:27, 30 Jun 2015 (UTC)
 * If that is the reason I don't think it is necessary. I'll add to the normal wood page which items can be crafted with any wood and which ones require normal wood so the information is available if anyone needs it. --0icke0 (talk) 10:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't have anything to add here, but I wanted to let you know that I will be here in full force for the next few days as well. T-minus 4 hours and 15 minutes remaining. :).  Chrisf1020  (talk)  12:45, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chris, we'll definitely need all the help we can get :) Equazcion  ( talk ) 13:04, 30 Jun 2015 (UTC)

Unblock
Someone can unblock me? Thanks :)
 * If you're able to post this here, you shouldn't be blocked, and your IP has no previous entries on its block log. If you send me your other IP/username I could look into it. –KM100 (talk) 15:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I can post because i logged off, my username is YeedilDragon.
 * To my knowledge, you were globally blocked because of (recurrent) vandalism over at the Minecraft Wiki. I don't want to countermand Orthotope's decisions, but your contributions here seem to be positive. I'll leave the decision open for other admins. –KM100 (talk) 16:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I want to help with the 1.3 stuff. The vandalism on Minecraft Wiki are a mistake, i did not expect that the administrators block's me...
 * Unfortunately we wouldn't generally reverse blocks imposed at other wikis. You'll need to contact the administrators at Minecraft Wiki and see if they'll lift the block. Equazcion  ( talk ) 05:05, 2 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Article redundancy: Martian Saucer – Flying Saucer
I assume both of the aforementioned articles describe the same thing. Since both articles contain relevant informations not mentioned in the other article both should be merged while keeping the respective revision histories. --Viciarg (talk) 13:52, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * This has been taken care of. Flying Saucer is now a disambiguation page. Equazcion  ( talk ) 05:05, 2 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. – viciarg (talk) 08:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Music Page Error/ False Information
I recently attempted to edit the Music page to change some completely false information- but was not allowed because I had to remove a section in order to correct it.

See- where it says Boss 4 and Boss 5, the Boss 4 section is describing the Golem theme- which is actually included on the Soundtrack's second volume under the title "Golem".

What it was describing under the Boss 5 section is actually the Boss 4 theme- the one used for the Queen Bee, and for the Eye of Cthulhu and Ocram on the Console/Mobile ports.

If it's not clear precisely what change I am proposing- this image should sum it up. https://u.teknik.io/0ZkMzB.png


 * Done. –KM100 (talk) 19:37, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Ads
I've been trying to locate all weapons including 1.3's weapons and I was planning on using your site to find out what all the weapons were. I was using the weapons page which listed every weapon (but didn't really) and I couldn't scroll down the page because of an advertisement in the corner. After the ad finished I began scrolling down and the page went back to the top and rea=started the ad not letting me scroll. This happened 3 times before I posted this. As a server owner I can assure you unless this is fixed and fixed fast I will be recommending other wiki's. Thanks for your concern (this is also the first major issue I've had. The wiki has lost something with 1.3. It use to be so much better and much much faster).
 * The administrators here at the wiki have nothing to do with the ads displayed here; all of that is managed by the Curse staff, whom you should contact if you wish to do something about it. As for the longer load times, there's no surprise there. 1.3 was a huge update, so there are a lot more people contributing than before its release. –KM100 (talk) 00:03, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ads are served by Curse/Gamepedia, which hosts Terraria Wiki. Terraria update 1.3 wouldn't really have much to do with those (though perhaps there may have been some ad display changes that coincided with 1.3's release). We editors are just volunteers and don't control the ad choices nor how they're displayed. For the record, I agree that some of them can interfere with the site and I've personally experienced various technical issues resulting from them (when I've tested the site with full ad display). I'd suggest emailing wiki@curse.com, or try their forum, to resolve any problems you might be having, or to express general feedback. Equazcion  ( talk ) 00:07, 13 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Spam on community noticeboard
Terraria_Wiki:Community_noticeboard is currently getting hit by an automated spambot every couple of minutes. Can we get a temporary protection on the page please? -- SDGlyph (talk) 13:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Interwiki file
I don't know why you delete file that used in Russian Wiki. I think about files that can use in another language section. I think it's be ignored by Equazcion.

My request: Merge deleted version of to Russian section with same name. ← Alex Great talk 13:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought I checked for foreign uses before I deleted each in that batch, but I guess I must have neglected to with that one. Sorry. I've just restored it. Equazcion  ( talk ) 00:06, 24 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't see usage in other project, I thought that you make javascript that display file usage. Why it brokes? ← Alex Great talk 06:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to click the "list foreign uses" link at the top. They don't display automatically. Equazcion  ( talk ) 07:10, 24 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Interwikis
I want to add interwikis in a template. But my edit brokes with filter "Test Language Filter" on protected talk page of template. And I add my message at this topic. Please add interwikis at next templates: fr:Modèle:! ko:틀:! pl:Szablon:! pt:Predefinição:! ru:Шаблон:! zh:Template:! ← Alex Great talk 09:11, 31 July 2015 (UTC) fr:Modèle:!! pl:Szablon:!! pt:Predefinição:!! ru:Шаблон:!! zh:Template:!! ← Alex Great talk 09:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC) fr:Modèle:!- ko:틀:!- pl:Szablon:!- pt:Predefinição:!- ru:Шаблон:!- zh:Template:!- ← Alex Great talk 09:32, 31 July 2015 (UTC) fr:Modèle:- ko:틀:- pl:Szablon:- pt:Predefinição:- ru:Шаблон:- zh:Template:- ← Alex Great talk 09:44, 31 July 2015 (UTC) fr:Modèle:= ko:틀:= pl:Szablon:= pt:Predefinição:= ru:Шаблон:= zh:Template:= ← Alex Great talk 09:58, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. I created those talk pages for the future, just in case. Equazcion  ( talk ) 10:06, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but this is not full list.

fr:Modèle:• ko:틀:• pl:Szablon:• pt:Predefinição:• ru:Шаблон:• zh:Template:• ← Alex Great talk 12:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Chinese Wiki
Wow. We have new Language section of Wiki? This is http://terraria-zhcn.gamepedia.com/. I think it's Simplified Chinese language. is'nt it? ← Alex Great talk 12:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * By Meta.Wikimedia standarts, I think, website must be renamed:

Interwikis must renamed also (in all exited language section). 12:20, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * http://terraria-zhtw.gamepedia.com/ to http://terraria-lzh.gamepedia.com/ (because "lzh" is classical chinese used for example in Taiwan ("tw" mean Taiwan; "zh-calssical" that used in Wikipedia is non-standart code, new official code is "lzh").
 * http://terraria-zhcn.gamepedia.com/ to http://terraria-zh.gamepedia.com/ (because "zh" is simplified chinese used in Mainland of China ("cn" mean China)
 * At this time Game widow create section. ← Alex Great talk 12:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The basics are now mostly in place, including the interwiki prefixes — Game widow (talk) 12:30, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you will rename web-site language code, that I noticed above? Because at this time "zh" prefix is mistake, because "zh" fully is zhcn. When we have one chinese section we don't care about it. But at this time we have two chinese wikis. And I think that we need correct interwikis. ← Alex Great talk 12:33, 31 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Updating to new "official" codes might be more trouble than it's worth. The language codes don't come into play for readers or editors such that some official code standard would be expected, nor lack of it affect anything. And, changing existing codes would mess with a lot of existing interwiki links. Plus, the zhcn interwiki link already translates to "Chinese (Mainland China)".


 * But, yes, there's now a new language wiki (thanks Game widow!). See Terraria Wiki:Community noticeboard. I'll be putting up a couple more notices soon, with links. Equazcion  ( talk ) 12:34, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * My congratulations to new section users. And sorry for offtop. ← Alex Great talk 12:43, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I add zhcn:Terraria Wiki to Main Page of Russian section. But it can't display in sidebar. Game widow can you fix it? Thanks. 12:45, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Use zh-cn. Equazcion  ( talk ) 12:49, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Umm scratch that. Lemme get things sorted out, I'll post a notice when we're ready to go with interwiki links. Equazcion  ( talk ) 12:53, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay this should work now. Use zh-cn. Equazcion  ( talk ) 12:59, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Yap. Thanks, it's work. ← Alex Great talk 13:11, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm also quite happy to run a bot to cleanup/standardise the prefixes (on all the terraria wikis) once you decide on the "final" version — Game widow (talk) 14:00, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * My opinion is: Change "zh" and "zhtw" (if used) to "lzh" as priority prefix for Traditional Chinese. And then change "zh-cn" and "zhcn" to "zh" as pririrty prefix for Simplified Chinese. I think guyz from META agree with me, because its corrected language codes. You can also ask users of both wikis, maybe they have new opinion. But do not forget that China does not recognize Taiwan as a state. But China considers Taiwan occupier mainland China. The same can happen when a question on the existence of two sections, and anyone of them assign a prefix "zh" because both is "Zhongguo" (中國 vs 中国). ← Alex Great talk 16:21, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Gadget of Local Time
Can anybody import at English Wiki Gadget of local time? Thanks. ← Alex Great talk 11:25, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * This seems a little frivolous since nearly all users will have their local time displayed in their devices already. I'd rather not clutter up the gadget list with things that can be there just for the hell of it... Equazcion  ( talk ) 16:15, 14 Aug 2015 (UTC)
 * I do not know what you're talking about if this gadget is disabled by default. And this gadget is exist at Preferences at Wikimedia Commons. Who's supposed to, he connected. Well, then I'll add it to my personal js. ← Alex Great talk 04:37, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Just because a gadget is optional doesn't mean including it serves a purpose. I'm not sure why Commons has it, nor what anyone would need it for. I wouldn't include it unless someone can make a good case for it being practically useful here. Equazcion  ( talk ) 04:47, 15 Aug 2015 (UTC)

Gadget of syntax highlighter
What about syntax highlighter at Editbox? This gadget provides highlightning of wikicode at editbox when you edit a page. ← Alex Great talk 04:47, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The last time I tried that one it didn't perform very well, and it has a bunch of caveats. If others have experience with it and want to chime in I'd consider it. Equazcion  ( talk ) 04:52, 15 Aug 2015 (UTC)
 * I have half a year working with him on Wikipedia. Only glitch is when it does not work for very long pages (this warning on the gadget page). I find it very useful and have connected it for all (non-default) at Special:Gadgets in Russian Wiki. If someone have any problems with this or other gadgets, he can always contact with administrator. In any case, I only offer useful gadgets that use myself long ago. If the gadget is not tested by me, I did not add. In addition, I will anyway use this gadget through my js. Glad to cooperate. ← Alex Great talk 05:00, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You can also read known issues at its owner page. ← Alex Great talk 05:02, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * After testing it again I've added it to our gadgets. Thanks for the info. Equazcion  ( talk ) 07:13, 15 Aug 2015 (UTC)
 * PS. I noticed that at the Russian wiki your JS code pages are displaying in a tiny font. We had this issue when Geshi was installed here. If you want to fix that, you can edit ru:MediaWiki:Geshi.css and add this:


 * Equazcion ( talk ) 07:19, 15 Aug 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes Done. Thank you very much. ← Alex Great talk 12:50, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Strange messages
Hello everyone. I am just here to report a strange message appearing on the Buggy page. it is in read and it says "Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "%"." If anyone can tell me what it nis and more importantly do anything about it that would be great.u Thank you User:Sevennationarmy
 * The cause of this problem is changes to the infoboxes. Unfortunately, I'm on a mobile device for the next while and don't have the means to fix this on every page, but I'm aware of it akd have identified the problem as best I could.
 * All critter pages with bait power are affected by this, because the template for "power" was used for bait ratings, with a textual indicator of "% bait power". This has since changed to explicitly refer to package power, it's original use, and returns an error if the value isn't strictly numeric. While it is possible to simply allow text to be displayed in the field similarly to item count, the most comprehensive fix would be the addition of a simila "bait" field if one does not already exist. Gearzein (talk) 14:14, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

P.S. please sign posts with four tildes.
 * All fixed now. Thanks for letting us know about that :) Equazcion  ( talk ) 14:32, 15 Aug 2015 (UTC)

Carrot method
The user has added a method to make the Carrot item (which is used to summon the collectors edition exclusive bunny pet work). While I don't know whether it is allowed here or not, the official fora disallow users from explaining how the pet can be made to work. User:DarknessWizard
 * I've gone ahead and removed this. For the record, the statement didn't provide a method- in order to game the system with the information given, one would have to apply knowledge learned elsewhere, and how to actually alter registry entries isn't known by the majority of users. Even so, the intent was clear. Because such a long time has passed, no action will be taken against the indicated user (at least not by me).
 * The question has come up lately, though, so a discussion of the appropriateness of information on game hacking is likely one that this wiki will need to have sooner or later. We may be acting in an official capacity, but we are not the forums, and we can't just blanket apply their rules to our actions and content. Moreover, people have expressed interest in having modding resources on the wiki- and if I'm not mistaken, this is partly why we include the IDs of game items and entities. Given the sensitive nature of some of this content- in some sense, having the Carrot in a vanilla game is tantamount to pirating the Collector's Edition- this is probably an important discussion to have, as well as an interesting one. Gearzein (talk) 18:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I would keep hacks but keep them out of mainspace. Guide pages would be fine. There's no real reason to exclude hacking info, but at the same time mainspace articles are intended to document proprietary game info alone. A simple 'see also'-type link to a guide page with hacks relevant to the article topic should be fine as it wouldn't distract much.


 * I'd exclude actual mod packages entirely though and restrict this allowance to tips, and to tools that can be used for "hacking" the proprietary game (eg. map viewers, inventory editors, third-party server software, etc). Downloadable software packages actually installed into the game that changes the game by altering content or the game interface (the common definition of a "game mod") is something that I think is less relevant, unless perhaps if a new namespace were set up specifically for mod info. Equazcion  ( talk ) 19:14, 16 Aug 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd also oppose the inclusion of mods themselves. There were some muddy thoughts in my head about this that I've since lost, but the gist is that we risk playing favorites or serving as a platform for promotion if we start showcasing third-party modifications in depth, and that's assuming that we keep them to their own pages. A wiki for an unpopular roguelike I play made the decision to prominently feature the most prominent mod's changes to vanilla content directly on the main pages, and the result was a flood of inaccurate information not too dissimilar to our own changing of crafting recipes following 1.3's release. This story was going somewhere at one point but the main thrust of my argument is that it's a bad idea.
 * I am, however, reminded of a statement KM100 once made regarding in-depth examination of AI and other similar mechanics. Since we already place such strong emphasis on sourcing information from the code, having snippets available on subpages might not be a terrible idea, both for illustrative purposes and as a potential subset of "this is how it works under the hood" content. We might want to wait for the version to stabilize a bit before we take any measures like this, though- I've decompiled the game six times in the last month, only to have the resulting source made obsolete after a few days. Gearzein (talk) 03:32, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Terraria Wiki:Directors
I think we can add same page of directors. This page is provide contacts in base wiki (English) for all current active admin staff in language sections of this project. This page also linked in sidebar of Minecraft Wiki (en). ← Alex Great talk 06:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I got something started at Terraria Wiki:Directors. For reference, at any language wiki, Special:ListAllUsers?username=&group=sysop should list admins. Equazcion  ( talk ) 07:34, 18 Aug 2015 (UTC)

Mass delete
Holy... I mixed up projects. Can you delete my last 28 files? I need to upload it to French Wiki. I'm sorry. ← Alex Great talk 10:40, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. --0icke0 (talk) 11:59, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. ← Alex Great talk 12:30, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Tax Collector trivia
The Tax Collector seems one of two NPC with a direct link to the real world, more specifically the United Kingdom, the other being the Tax Collector, Since he mentions farthings, which are UK currencies. This makes no sense, should the first one be traveling merchant? (Found in the traveling merchant page, note section.)
 * Looks like someone tried to more or less copy a similar note on the Tax Collector page, but didn't really do the proofreading so well. The statement isn't entirely true anyway, as lots of NPCs mention or even sell stuff that exists in reality, so I've removed it. Gearzein (talk) 21:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)