User talk:Equazcion/Archive 1

Summon modifiers
Sorry, I didn't know about that, I'll change them back. OdnHarfagre (talk) 15:31, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks for the undo :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 15:33, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Fishing
You did a fantastic job polishing my input on the fishing page, the verbiage is much more concise and the table is excellent. Well done, and thanks.
 * No problem and thanks for the great compliment! :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 19:39, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Small Edits
Hey, for you the same message as for OdnHarfagre: I recently (that is yesterday) started learning how to use bots to edit the wiki. I noticed you made a lot of small edits to expand the settings on the Master Template Tiles. If anytime in the future you need to do something like that again feel free to ask me and I'll try to use a bot for this. (If you are concerned about points I should be able to add them manually.) --0icke0 (talk) 06:26, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I actually did this using AutoWikiBrowser (which is automated without technically being a bot). When you see a million edit from my account that's usually what's going on. I appreciate the offer though, thanks :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 06:44, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

RE: Mine Cart track
Good to know, sounds like I should make a Guide page then. I was somewhat surprised that the wiring control was a new find, and pretty excited at the time. Thanks for the kudos. The way the switches are implemented are pretty cool, however because of the toggle logic system you can't make more than a two light indicator. (You can't make working three way lights.) Of course you could make a light that came on as you went down the track, but you couldn't make a light that went green indicating the switch status, and it was safe to do so like a real train. I'll see if I can put together a polished video for a rail system build guide with switches, overrides, switch status indicators, and reset returns. I think probably the main important items would have to be jump tracks for state changes on switches, and of course the whole wired switch idea in the first place.

Sorry about that, didn't know videos were currently disallowed. I got the code from the Engine page for the video. That's been there for awhile. I made a better edited video that features complex switch design including the use of cycling jump track directional switch sensors, real life rail system coloration switch bodies, and un-used switch resets for return trips. I do notice that many of the pages do have videos, and I've found them quite useful. Any particular reason why videos are disallowed? Anyway, since this is a talk page, I'll reference the complex track video here, and you can remove it at your leisure. PS the videos are of Poozly and by Poozly (my other character) and are completely copyright and owned by me, and I grant common use rights to them to www.curse.com, which I kind of assumed by posting the video to the wiki I was granting. But I do make it explicit here in this talk page. Thanks again! 
 * Don't worry about it :) The official video policy is here: Terraria Wiki:Video policy (it's sort of old though and hasn't been updated in a while). The practice is generally that the wiki doesn't use gameplay videos, except to illustrate basic concepts that can't be described any other way, and animated GIFs are used in most of those situations. On regular wiki pages about items and mechanics, this pretty much excludes gameplay videos showcasing the various ingenious things players have done with the item in question -- although that sort of thing could be suited to a Guide page specifically about Minecart Track tips. You should probably leave out the comments typed in the video itself though (that part is in the video policy I linked). It's better to do the explaining via ordinary article text. :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 00:31, 2 Aug 2014 (UTC)

Master Bait
Pretty certain that the master bait has nothing to do with masturbating, just saying, the golden shower/mourning wood are actual intended puns, where as the master bait masturbating thing isnt intended at all, its also just extremely immature, and honestly should not be on a wiki that kids most likely browse. WelchDrew (talk) 19:45, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm quite certain it's intended. This is a common fishing joke and the other innuendos in the game would seem to make the chances of it being unintentional rather low. As for removing it based on it being offensive or unsuitable for minors, we've never done that here before, and until a blanket rule were adopted I'd say it's not a factor. It would probably be best to respond to the discussion already ongoing on that talk page though. Equazcion ( talk ) 19:47, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You should not forget, that piece of trivia was deleted by so many others, other variants of it were deleted. To be honest I feel it has no place on this wiki... It should just be deleted, and someone else will most likely delete it in the future. Just save yourself the trouble of undoing those edits... WelchDrew (talk) 19:52, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The fact that several other people found it offensive doesn't speak to public opinion. There are many people who didn't remove it, and we don't know how many of those there were. Not that that's any kind of argument to remove it anyway. If you have an argument, please participate in the article's talk page discussion at Talk:Bait. It's not proper to continue reverting while ignoring an ongoing public discussion on the matter. And don't worry about me -- it's no trouble at all :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 19:55, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

No Offense to you but...
I will be honest, no offence to you Equazcion, but you are my least favorite wiki contributor, I am not saying this to be a troll or anything, but as much as I like this wiki(and the guy who administrates it, 0icke0.) But I will be honest, sometimes I feel this wiki would be better without some people, oh and your level, number of edits and your spot on the leaderboard mean nothing. I would rather not abandon another wiki because of "that one person."(Especially a gamepedia wiki, the previous wikis I abandoned were Wikia ones but thats beside the point). This is merely my opinion. WelchDrew (talk) 07:21, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * As for this incident with the Angler armor requirements, most of the info posted around wikis and forums seems to support the information on the page as it stood, as does the game code. You sought to keep your altered info on the page regardless, based solely on your personal experience, which is something that usually isn't done, and for good reason.


 * When one person experiences something unique, that's generally added as a bug. I'm sorry if you don't agree with that but it seems like the most workable option. And I'm sorry I'm not your favorite editor here.  Equazcion ( talk ) 07:38, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Moon phase
ok you did a great table, thats the kinda things i wanted but didnt have the scripting knowledge to make more decently. plus the pics of the moon phases, definitely better there, and the fishing power... always something you forgot, thats why it should be cooperative. this was long overdue so now this page rocks. good job.85.69.241.244 11:14, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 13:12, 9 Aug 2014 (UTC)

Massive Edits
Hi Equazcion,

It has been brought to my attention that you are doing a massive amount of repetative edits, and this could be to farm Gamepedia points. Please note that this is discouraged, and that a lot of people will dislike this idea. However if you are doing it to actually be helpful on the wiki, I can bot flag you until you have finished this job (And in turn, preventing any Gamepedia Point gains).

Regards, Kris. Gamepedia Wiki Manager Cblair91 (talk) 17:23, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I am completely uninterested in gaming the points system. I'd be happy to create a separate bot account for automated edits -- I had requested that from our singular active admin, but he seemed not to know who to contact for that. He'd like to do the same himself for his User:0icke0bot account (the admin is User:0icke0).  Equazcion ( talk ) 17:26, 30 Aug 2014 (UTC)
 * I just created User:EquazcionBot, if you can apply a permanent bot flag there I'll perform all automated edits from it. Thanks!  Equazcion ( talk ) 17:31, 30 Aug 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, if you create a seperate account that will be good, I will flag yours and his accounts for bot :) Please reply back when you have made the user.
 * P.s. Bot flags applied Cblair91 (talk) 17:40, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * That's awesome, thank you! I switched the automated edits over to that account now.  Equazcion ( talk ) 17:44, 30 Aug 2014 (UTC)

Purity vs Forest on fishing catches
The reason I used Purity instead of Forest is because it is less technical. It sounds really weird to say "It doesn't have any other biomes" by using the term "Forest" if there are no trees(especially in the non-Jungle Underground, Cavern, or Underworld). Crimson, Corruption, and Jungle can have trees and are not called Forest. The tooltip for Green Solution says "Used by the Clentaminator. Spreads the Purity."--Blackberry Pie (talk) 17:07, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I understand, although we're not merely referring to the absence of other biomes. I don't see much reason to say that the forest/purity is merely a lack of other biomes. It may not exactly "spread", but it's as much its own biome as anything else. It has its own enemies, growth, drops, etc, all of which are in effect whether or not trees are there.


 * Most biomes would be about as difficult to identify in areas without their respective identifying elements, like mushrooms, corrupt thorns, etc.


 * The biome is only named in two places within the game: Angler quotes and the Clentaminator tooltip. While the Clentaminator tooltip says "purity", the Angler quotes are pretty numerous and all refer to it as "forest". In the end though, this wiki currently uses the term "forest" everywhere, so for consistency's sake it would be best not to change things in certain areas. If it were decided that the term should change across the board, we could change it everywhere though I don't personally see a need.  Equazcion ( talk ) 17:27, 1 Sep 2014 (UTC)


 * No, It really is an absence of other biomes. If you look at the code for fishing or enemy spawning it always checks for other biomes first. Only if no other biomes are found or all of the biome specific things fail to happen does Terraria default to the fish or enemy list for the Purity.--Blackberry Pie (talk) 17:49, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, we could debate whether forest/purity is its own biome -- but, whatever it is, it's got a particular name on this wiki, so it could get confusing to start using different words in different places.  Equazcion ( talk ) 17:55, 1 Sep 2014 (UTC)


 * You should consider a job in marketing or politics. It will put your obstructionism and nannying to good use.--Blackberry Pie (talk) 18:14, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * And you should consider reading up on the rules. A simple search in the game code for forest returns many results, far more than purity. Hence I agree with Equazcion that there is no reason to rename it because of one results that says otherwise. --0icke0 (talk) 06:33, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Stop getting rid of the Minion DPS tables
There is no particular reason not to have them, and given the unique nature of summoning bonuses affecting both minion count and damage separately, having an explicit representation of how different bonuses affect their overall effectiveness is needed, or at least extremely useful as reference, over the simple linearity of damage and crit bonuses that other weapons have. At the very least, consider that all of the work is done and there's no harm in keeping it, and that it is foolish to just throw it away. --SzGamer227 (talk) 11:17, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There's nothing terribly unique about minion bonuses. People simply endeavor to acquire the items with the greatest boosts, as with any other item type. The particular numbers that result don't matter. There are a great many things that don't exactly "hurt" in any way other than degrading the quality of the wiki by adding bloat. It's the same reason you've been removing trivia bloat en masse (which I generally agree with). It's also a confusing table, as it appears at first to be adding new information, but it isn't. Its more like Guide material and I'd suggest putting it there.  Equazcion ( talk ) 11:40, 3 Sep 2014 (UTC)
 * Also see my comment on this at Talk:Minions, which I posted when I removed the chart.  Equazcion ( talk ) 11:42, 3 Sep 2014 (UTC)
 * I saw you re-added the chart, so as a compromise I've set it to default to a collapsed state, and people can expand it if they like. I also changed "DPS" to "boost" because I found "DPS" misleading -- the chart doesn't contain DPS numbers but boost percentages. I also placed the chart under a "Tips" heading, to clarify its purpose. Hope that's acceptable. <font face="Century Gothic"> Equazcion ( talk ) 12:09, 3 Sep 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you. As long as they are on the page where people can refer to them when needed, it's fine with me.

Bit of trivia on the nymph page.
Shouldnt the nymph banner trivia be on the nymph banner page or banner page? WelchDrew (talk) 11:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I already changed it. OdnHarfagre (talk) 14:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Since all the banners are now merged, I think info on one particular banner is sort of useless on the mass listing page. It would be much more visible on the page pertaining to the monster that drops it. Just my opinion. <font face="Century Gothic"> Equazcion ( talk ) 18:10, 8 Oct 2014 (UTC)
 * That's right too, never thought about it. Maybe we could write it on both pages? OdnHarfagre (talk) 18:34, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think both is cool yeah. <font face="Century Gothic"> Equazcion ( talk ) 18:39, 8 Oct 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, added :) OdnHarfagre (talk) 21:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) <font face="Century Gothic"> Equazcion ( talk ) 01:36, 9 Oct 2014 (UTC)

Admin
Recently I've realized that I'am overworked. This also affects my capabilities as a administrator here. I've noticed that some of my responses ended up being short or blunt and aside from blocking vandals I've been unable to actively contribute to the wiki. Furthermore, it is currently a burden for me, which considering the circumstances is not something I should continue with. Hence I've decided to, at least temporarily, lay down this function. I really love this wiki, and will properly still make edits once in a while, but being active every day is not among my current capabilities. With that being said, I do not want to leave this wiki without an active administrator to ensure the quality of the wiki. Although I could possibly ask a curse member to help out with this, you are in for a long due promotion. So I want to ask you if you are interested in becoming an administrator. In short this means that, aside from what you can do now, you will be able to more easily revert vandalism, (un)block users and (un)delete and protect pages, to further help fight vandalism. In addition this will result in additional responsibilities, for example mediating conflicts between users, should problems arise. I believe you are capable for this task, so even though I cannot promote you myself, I'll do my best to get a curse member to promote you, should you decide that you want to become an administrator. If you have additional questions I recommend taking a look at our Administrator Guide and considering it is lacking a great amount of information maybe look the the Wikipedia Administrator Guide as well. Of course you can also ask me. I'll be awaiting your response. --0icke0 (talk) 23:07, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll do it. I do wish there were other active long-term editors here, but que sera. I'm pretty familiar with admin responsibilities and the MediaWiki admin tools. So yeah, go for it. I hope I can be as good at it as you are -- you've done an outstanding job all this time. Thanks for thinking of me. <font face="Century Gothic"> Equazcion ( talk ) 23:26, 28 Oct 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to hear this. I've asked Cblair91 to promote you, so hopefully you will receive your administrator rights soon. --0icke0 (talk) 08:47, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like that worked. Thanks :) <font face="Century Gothic"> Equazcion ( talk ) 11:48, 29 Oct 2014 (UTC)