Talk:Terraria Wiki/editcopy

Buffs and Debuffs Section
I think we should make a new page containing all the buffs and debuffs that the game currently has and throw it on the main page. CrapTM 19:01, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Pinky & Chaos Ball
Can anyone remove Pinky and the Chaos Ball from the monsters list becouse of a slime article already being on the monsters list and the Chaos Ball isnt a monster

Featured Page/Did You Know Section
Would these 2 section propose any interest to any other Terraria Editors? The Featured Page Section could be a page to be shown on the front page, awhile the Did You Know Section could contain Trivia and other interesting information to be presented to users. --Reginald 00:46, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Currently, I don't think there is enough fully fleshed out articles to warrant a "Featured article" section. Also, these kinds of projects take huge time and commitment to maintain. With a game this new, and a wiki this new, I think we should hold off at least for awhile... maybe revisit the issue in 6 months. As for a Did you know section... provide some ideas of what you would like to see, and an idea of the mechanics. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  00:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * For example, present a fact the average Terraria player might not know, such as "Did you know... Underground Jungles are on the opposite side of a map to a Dungeon?" or, "Did you know... Your player can jump 12 feet high max without a Shiny Red Balloon?" --Reginald 23:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And how would they be presented, and how would they be rotated? -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  23:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * A certain bot or a trusted Admin of the Wiki could be able to put it under a Category Box (such as the Items Box, Monsters box, etc.) and the bottom of the page, and every week or so, the bot/Admin could pick up 3 or 4 facts from a Special Talk Page that members of the Wiki can contribute. Also, under the facts, there could be in small italic font say "Submit a Fact!". --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Reginald (talk).
 * A week is too long, It would lose it's impact. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  23:39, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I love this concept of the "Did you know?" It'd work a lot better if there was a way to have a bunch and maybe update it every few days or if it could randomly change each refresh/visit. IKJames 15:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I have seen the "Did you knows" A trillion times and they are very interesting. I would love to have that on the wiki. --Revolt- Change Is Welcome 19:30, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Main Links
Just some minor suggestions, but under the "Welcome to the Official Terraria Wiki," can we place some main links, for example:
 * Latest Version (States Version and links to Patch Notice)
 * Terraria Online Main Website
 * Steam Store Page (ie. Buy Terraria Now!)

Here's an example of what could be it

 Welcome to the official Terraria Wiki, the comprehensive reference written and maintained by the players. We are currently maintaining articles

--Reginald Danger Safety™ 23:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Monsters section
Moved from Talk:Terraria Wiki Why not just put Monster? Use   (or includeonly, cant remember) in that said article (to exclude its categories and any other things we don't want in the main page) and in the main page just put Monster. This way we don't have to wait someone with admin privileges to update the main page. yeh 06:57, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Meant . yeh (talk) 07:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's what it is. Note that the noinclude command was not yet put in Monster. yeh (talk) 08:00, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


 * If we did that, then Monsters couldn't be edited by anyone but admins.... -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  08:04, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I thought that wouldn't be a issue as far as protecting the page for admins edit only would be needed (didn't see any vandalism so far) . yeh (talk) 08:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Anything directly included on the main page is protected. That's why we have an editcopy of the mainpage. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  09:40, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Goblin Scout, Undead Miner
Goblin Scout needs to be added to Rare Monsters, as it is not part of the Goblin Army. Also, is the Undead Miner supposed to be a rare monster? 04:40, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

List of changes (9-1-11)
--Null Talk  03:23, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Added border around links
 * Aligned links exactly
 * Changed the way the links in "The game" are displayed, adding custom bullets
 * Changed links of "The game"
 * Added "Items" category in Items and mechanics, moving crafting recipes to "The game"
 * Aligned and debugged table in "Enemies" - works perfectly now
 * Changed icon to Zombie
 * Forced html bullets for many reasons
 * Changed "Monsters" to "Enemies" - user request
 * Changed -moz- and -webkit- to all for support on different layout engines
 * Simplified bottom text
 * Minor other changes
 * So, what was wrong with the enemies box? I don't really see much of a difference. And I don't think that using both bullets and center align in the The Game box looks good at all. On that thought, why do we need to specify the bullets so exactly? --JonTheMon 03:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Very minor, unfixable alignment issues compared to other sections, and when you tried to add a new enemy, the alignment would completely get ruined. This table that isn't as cluttered too, besides the custom bullets. I agree with the align center in the "The game" box, and I don't really care about it either, if anyone else doesn't like it, they are free to change it. For the exact bullets, first of all, there was a random margin of 2px in the original one and second, you can only use the */#/: characters at the beginning of lines. You can try the old bullets to see the difference. I had to specify bullets for "The game" exact because that (for neatness), and that there is a strange float left that doesn't work with align center. --Null  Talk  03:46, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the links in "The game" can be switched around also, I kind of tried to avoid links in the sidebar. Crafting recipes definitely needs to be there and list of known bugs is a popular article, making it easier to access. --Null  Talk  03:49, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good. I would remove those centered bullet points though. iLiaWneK'''|talk|contributions]] 07:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Crafting recipies is not a guide, it doesn't belong with the rest of the guides. Also, why are you limiting the number of guides listed there? Please add any guides that are listed on the sidebar. This will expand the news section to allow more news entries at the same time, and is the way it was intended to work from the start. I also totally dislike the html, please stick to wiki code. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  09:27, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've never noticed the very minor alignment issues, and if they are that minor, why not leave them in for simpler/smaller code? I personally don't see any change between the versions in the Enemies box. I do see a change in The Game box when viewing it in IE; the bullets are tiny points. --JonTheMon 13:17, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, for starter, the html is incorrect. If you are going to use explicit html ul instead of mediawiki bullets, at least close your li. Also, what are those (unclosed) dd tags doing in there?
 * My browser (FF 3.6) doesn't support "border-radius". It is perfectly fine to add "border-radius" for browsers that support it, it is another to remove the compatibility tags of "-moz-border-radius" and ""-webkit-border-radius" for those that don't.
 * I prefer align left for "The Game"
 * Other than that, I see what you did in monsters. The layout is tighter, and I like it. happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 16:42, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I also don't like the change of image on the Monsters. If you are going to use a zombie, please size it correctly. It's too small as it is. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  17:50, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Happypal:
 * Added -moz- support
 * li and dd tags do not need closing, and if you tried, it would appear on the page: seems odd though
 * Wynthyst:
 * Do you have any popular page suggestions? Also, do you have a better enemy picture in mind?
 * Adding guides that are in the sidebar is a bit redundant
 * Sorry for the html, but I think we have to stick with it - * just messes up everything
 * Everyone:
 * I've remove the centered links in "The game" since no one likes them, also changed some
 * Sorry for a late reply
 * JonTheMon:
 * This table is actually very simple even with the perfect aligning.
 * IE is displaying fine for me o_O
 * --Null Talk  23:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * "*Sorry for the html, but I think we have to stick with it - * just messes up everything" not even close to being correct. I do not want the mainpage filled up with a bunch of messy html. If you won't remove it, I will. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  04:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you remove it, make sure it looks exactly the same and performs exactly the same. --Null  Talk  14:26, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed li/ul tags, now it's just dd, which is less characters than ":"s --Null  Talk  03:07, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Does anyone have anything to say before I move this page in 48 hours from now? --Null  Talk  17:24, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Waiting for more discussion before I move the pages. --Null  Talk  22:24, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks fine to me. About the only thing that had me looking twice was the orders of the environments, but that's not huge. --JonTheMon 22:56, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, I was trying to order from highest to lowest (altitude) and in most common to least common but I got sidetracked and forgot to finish it. There we go. --Null  Talk  23:02, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * May I suggest for the new 1.1 enemies that a Hardmode sub-section be made, similarly to Common, Rare, Event, Boss, etc.? --darrenalilim 06:24, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Listing of game mechanics
I added a bunch of missing game mechanics to this page's list in a recent edit. But I just realized that Category:Game_mechanics has still more mechanics not listed here, such as e.g. 'Breath meter', 'Critical hit', etc. Should every mechanic be listed here? Is there some threshold a mechanic should satisfy in terms of significance? If there was, I might have unknowingly trampled on it :/ --Chibs84 10:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

About boss exclusive monsters
I kinda feel the boss exclusive monsters don't belong in the list among the regular monsters. I'm talking about mobs like the Servant of Cthulhu, Leech and the Probe. Isn't there a better way to list them? Or is it even necessary to list them on the front page? They are kinda part of the bosses after all. --ShadowTani 17:22, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with this. Also, should we call them enemies, monsters, or mobs?  Or something else?  Creature like birds, bunnies, and goldfish aren't really enemies.  Could we maybe divide the monsters section into more categories?  EDIT:  Alternately, we could go with fewer categories.  Simply have "creatures" and "bosses."  I think I prefer that.  --Theothersteve7 18:38, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * A thought I have is to simply divide them into five Categories:

Give me feedback on this, please. --Linkraft 19:14, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Passive-Birds, goldfish, bunnies. NPCs might be considered as well.
 * Minor-Special mobs that spawn during special events.
 * Medium-Mobs that are found in all other enviroments.
 * Dangerous-Mobs that are found in Hardmode, Hallow, Hell and Dungeons.
 * Summons-Any event, boss, or mini-boss that can be summoned or be considered a mini-boss.


 * Passive makes sense as a category.
 * I'm not sure what you mean by minor mobs; Meteor heads? Harpies?  Servant of Cthulhu? Goblin Archers?
 * Medium is a bit broad. I'd rather just leave it an unlabeled category.
 * Dangerous mobs are about half of them by that standard. I don't really like it because it's very subjective.  In full Hallow a Hellbat is only marginally more dangerous than a goldfish; and doesn't the Jungle come after the Dungeon?  I'd just as soon see it merged with Medium.
 * Summons - I think we threw out the "mini-boss" idea and just left it as "bosses" and "events". King Slime is a full boss now according to most of the wiki.  But I do like this:


 * Goblin Army
 * Goblin Archer
 * Goblin Warrior
 * Goblin Peon
 * Goblin Thief
 * Goblin Sorcerer


 * Eye of Cthulhu
 * Servant of Cthulhu

--Theothersteve7 19:28, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Wall of Flesh
 * Leech
 * The Hungry

To answer your question about the Minor catergory, yes, it is all the little mobs that spawn out of different mobs. That includes the Hungry, Leeches, Blue slime spawned from King Slime, Goblin Scout which is not considered to be part of the Goblin Army itself, Servant of Cthulhu, Meteor Heads, and slimelings that spawn from large slimes.--Linkraft 23:00, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Console Version History Link?
I have been working on a Console Version History page to list changes to the console version of Terraria and was wondering if there should be a link on the main page for it? It's still a very early WIP, but maybe when more info is added to it, there could be a link for people who want to easily find the latest changes to the console version.

--MrCRAZYbox (talk) 23:18, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Changes proposed by Luckymou
I do not believe this massive change is beneficial to the wiki in any way. Removing direct links to the content from the main page will simply drive users away as it makes it that much more difficult to find what they are looking for. One of the best things about this wiki is the ease of direct access to the content that it provides. -- Wynthyst   talk  18:24, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not a fan of removing all the links either. But I do thing there is a need to redesign the front page. Currently the enemy section lists all the enemies, which will be a problem when version 1.2 comes out and another 50-100 enemies are added. --0icke0 (talk) 10:24, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

New Main Page
With the 1.2 update coming I think it is needed to change the main page, more specifically the enemy section. If just like the normal items the amount of enemies also doubles this will become too large. Therefore I think it will be useful to remove all console specific enemies (except Ocram), as they are nearly the same as the PC enemies. To make sure they are still easily accessible the PC enemy pages should be updated with the console enemy as a variant of the PC enemy, like the Hornet page currently. A similar thing can be done with other pages that refer to the same type of enemy. This is for example already done with Slimes, Bats, Hornet, Jellyfish and Eater of Souls, but not yet with Light/Dark/Normal Mummy, or the hardmode Slimes (Illuminant Slime, Toxic Sludge, Slimer, Corrupt Slime) and Bats (Giant/Illuminant Bat and Slimer).

If there are really a lot of new enemies added (which most likely will be the case) more links can be removed, such as enemies that are summoned by bosses (Servant of Cthulhu/Ocram, Leech, Probe), because most people will go to the boss pages instead. Also enemies which are no real enemies (Bird, Goldfish and Bunny) may be removed. I don't think many people will follow the link for the Bird page for example. Last of all the Dungeon Guardian may be included on the Skeletron page (just like there is no separate page for Skeletron Prime in his 'berserk' mode).

I've done those changes in this revision, along with combining the Modifier and Reforge link (which link to the same page), and removing the Mana and Health link, which are already included in the Player Stats link. This results in a considerably more compact enemy section, allowing for additional enemies. However if there are a lot of pre-hardmode enemies added, compared to hardmode enemies this won't work very will. An alternative may be to do it like this revision (couldn't get the formatting completely correct, so the spacing for the right most column is a bit off). This would work well if we end up with about twice as many pre-hardmode enemies as hardmode enemies (and may allow to add links for Brid/Bunny/Goldfish back to the common enemy list. Also consider that (according to the spoilers) 5 new bosses, likely multiple/many rare enemies and at least one event will be added. This may result in uneven columns in the first revision, however it may also result in a too long column in the second revision.

Although the final decision will most likely be made when version 1.2 is released, I though it would be a good idea to share this now, so everyone can comment on those ideas. If anyone else has a good idea on how to change the main page feel free to share it. --0icke0 (talk) 12:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)