User talk:The Pathogen/Archive2

Redirects
Hey hows doing? I seen you made a Minerals redirect to the Category:Minerals. It isn't needed since searching Minerals will take you straight to the category page anyway. Thanks Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:02, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Heya Gracey, doing quite well actually, heh. Reason I made the redirect was to make pages a little smaller and more organized when Material items were linked in the "Type" section of the infobox, just to save a little space. Thanks for the maintenance anyways though ^^ 06:25, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh i see, I'll make you a template for it. I don't like the idea of cross-namespace redirects. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:33, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ahh, ok. Thanks again Gracey, sorry for the trouble caused though, heh. 06:35, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't worry bout it, its nothing. I have made the template, its here. Its not quiet as fast as the redirect but you only need to add a couple more characters. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:50, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Very nicely done, that'll serve well for the little redirects needed, heh. Thanks! 06:51, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks and no worries. I enjoy making templates. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 07:07, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

I was just wondering if you are in new zealend and i'm in north carolina(the united states) what time would it be there if it was midnight here?Donoman 14:40, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Het path, how would you find your steam ID

Me aboveDonoman 18:09, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

hey pathogen i just defeated 12 wall of fleshes in all of terraria but how did you manage to get thirty something eye of cthulhu dead in one night? and eater of worlds

also i recently defeated 2 of the twins and am having trouble with the destroyer as well as skeletron prime.

any tips or hints you can give me and also on the market you put up i recently asked for hallowed leggings and chestplate so can you answer any time soon? and hey maybe we should hag out on a server unless you have 1.1.2 cause i cant update

WolfboyX5 02:47, January 25, 2012 (UTC)WolfboyX5

Categories
Hey Path hows it going? I seen you made some new categories a while back, there listed here. Don't worry about Browse it can't really be categorized, but can you add the other 2 into a category? I figure you had/have a plan on where they should go? Thanks Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 07:28, January 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Heya Gracey, good to hear from you, and I hope you're well. Done and done, though I actually didn't know I had to categorize the categories, heh. Thanks for that (°▼°) 07:50, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Undone change - please undo or explain
The changes I made to the gun were from mousing over the crafting info in the game, not from the actual item after I created it. Other similar items, like the Megashark, still had the correct stats when checked this way. Please revisit this change and verify whether or not the stats have changed in the latest version of the game. I would not think armor and items would affect the crafting menu before the item is created.

Ksharra 15:46, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Undone change - please undo or explain
The changes I made to the gun were from mousing over the crafting info in the game, not from the actual item after I created it. Other similar items, like the Megashark, still had the correct stats when checked this way. Please revisit this change and verify whether or not the stats have changed in the latest version of the game. I would not think armor and items would affect the crafting menu before the item is created.

Ksharra 15:48, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry my friend
sorry to post that message from gracey but thats why i didnt promote you i just thought people should know thats how they are opperating. and thanks for your help.HeroGaming 03:39, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

hi pathogen! i got a server thats hardmode and no new characters if u wanna go on my server! 4 hamatchi it is AuntieMinecraft pass auntie ok!!!Kayla Kerr 17:40, January 29, 2012 (UTC)kayla kerr

Bright Future.
Hey I spoke with staff the issue has ended. Lets Grow the wiki together and focus on the positive future for the wiki together.HeroGaming 01:41, January 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey there Hero, great to hear that! I'll be glad to stand with you and the other faithful editors to keep this wiki up for the masses. 05:53, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Admin
Great I'm gonna be honest with you, you are being considered heavily for the admin spot but there is some stuff I'd like you do work on. You are a bit touchy when responding to people comments. It seems that your love for the game is translated into pride about the game. If you can try to be more kind and gentle with users it would make the decision easier.

Teamwork
I will also work on being more kind. I have a tone problem and need to lead by example. (I was way to angry and unprofessional during the whole event. For some of the stuff I said and how I acted I am a little embarrassed) So we will work together. Also when it comes to video it's no secrete I am very picky about how it's handled. I will be working out a clearly defined policy that makes it easy for users to know how to submit video as long as they do there best to follow the rules and have the wikis best interest at heart. It was always possible but the guidance was never given which is my fault. More faults I will be working on.

Have a good day don't take the kindness thing personal I am very blunt as well we both need more compassion my friend--HeroGaming 07:08, January 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's good to hear an update on the situation Hero, and thanks for putting that forward. I've often wondered if I'm being too harsh in the manner of my replies, not to mention the situation at home has been a little "questionable" in nature lately, hence the many different types of reply I've left. I've continually told myself to try be nicer in many situations, though it seems I need to try harder; and that I shall do. I will admit I'm quite proud of my own achievements ingame, though I wish not to boast on them, and I'm quite proud of the game in general, as I enjoy it more than any other game I've come to play, even more so than Skyrim (I've been an Elder Scrolls fan since Daggerfall). I'll also admit I'm quite easily angered when I'm accused of something I didn't do, or when I'm insulted, though that's a pretty general reaction.


 * I'm honored to hear I'm still being considered for the position of admin here, and should it be decided in my favor, I'll be certain to do my utmost to uphold the quality of the wiki, the information therein, and the happiness of the community too. I'll patiently wait for your decision, in the meanwhile working on my own faults, helping the community through their troubles, and if you so wish, helping you on anything you need.


 * We'll come to see this wiki become one of the very best, I'm sure. I may not be able to get back on again tonight, so I'll say "Peace Out" now, and let you deliberate on the next course of action. Thanks again ^_^ 07:46, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki mediation.
Hey Path. I know you don't agree with me about everything but I think you should know we are talking about the whole wiki thing with staff here http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Wiki_Mediation

Feel free to voice your opinion.HeroGaming 03:33, February 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for referring that to me Hero, I'll be certain to put forward what I think. 03:36, February 2, 2012 (UTC)



What am I doing?
Hey, can you tell me what I am doing wrong with the editing because I saw you deleted my edit on the antilion page but someone spelled they're wrong they spelled it they'er what am I doing wrong

Donoman 04:00, February 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * "They're" was spelled correctly there, actually. Feel free to have a look, if need be. Thanks. 04:02, February 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, look I'm tired I don't have my classes on and maybe feeling a bit hated on, so from now on making edits during the day :-l Donoman 04:07, February 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's ok. I just like to see things that're grammatically correct, and look clean, hence my pedantic behaviour when it comes to spelling, formatting and punctuation. 04:09, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Your userpage and signature
I really like your userpage and signature. Did you draw that yourself? Trollipopz 21:33, February 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I did the design work on the images in Photoshop myself, but I took some of the page design ideas from Math's page. 04:13, February 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see. Very nice. Trollipopz 18:30, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Handgun
I am going to add this to the handgun page, but can a handgun shoot crystal bullets?

Donoman 04:39, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

New Sig Functions
Testing, now with date/time and email :). Also, saw the glowing timestamp you did with yours. Nice.


 * Very nice Dzy ^_^ Glad to see you got it all working well. And thanks for noticing, I may yet link it to something, heh.


 * Thanks. One thing I noticed on yours, however, is that the Date and Time are static. It might just be my cache, but for me it's showing "Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:59:36 +0000" no matter what time you posted at. Again, if it's just me, disregard this.


 * Funnily enough, yours is too. :P Thanks for noticing that. I think I've fixed mine.


 * Nah, mine is good, lol. The time updates when the section it is placed in is edited in any way. If you'll look on my page, talk page, sig page, etc. you'll see they're all showing different times. When I post this, the time on your sig will change too.
 * Edit: Yours is functioning properly as well, if you'll look on my page.

Sig Testing
One, two, three? 06 Feb, 2012 - 07:15:07am


 * Update. Did my time change? 06 Feb, 2012 - 07:16:03am


 * SUCCESS!! 06 Feb, 2012 - 07:18:00am


 * Final edit, and completeness. Anyone like? Lol. 06 Feb, 2012 - 07:40:03am

Love the new time stamp, your very creative!

Donoman 03:43, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Discussions
Discussions about our wiki's video policy and administrative structure going forward will be started tomorrow (Wednesday afternoon/evening) by Sannse. Discussions will use a regular content page--which will basically be a forum with comments. The page itself is for detailed discussion, comments are for the rest of the community who don't feel comfortable with the forum format. I'm sending this message out to some key members of the community here so that they're notified. Let's have a polite and productive conversation. Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 22:26, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Discussions Have Begun!
Please join in and have your say =)

Video Policy Discussion

Administration Discussion Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 01:16, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Chathacks
Hey not sure if you got my message on the official wiki. Chathacks is working fine, its because you have added in into your global.js file on this wiki. Global.js only works on the Community Central wiki, move it to your wikia.js and it will work fine. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 04:43, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Categorizing templates
Hey path i noticed you have made some templates like the HP one. One thing, you need to categorize them. This is generally done by adding to the template in noinclude tags. Then add includeonly tags to the doc page to add the category to the template. Also when you make templates that will display next to numbers its always a good idea to add the parameter to the template so people can add it in the template. So it would be. If you need any help with it let me know. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 08:31, February 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Heya Gracey, I'll have to do the categorizations later because I gotta get off for now, but the HP Template's been revised as you said, I'll also update the ShorthandCode template so others can see it too. Thanks for the pointers ^_^ 09 Feb, 2012 - 08:49:50am


 * No worries. You can get a list of the templates without cats here. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 09:05, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Coin icon templates not working =/
Coin Icon Templates for infoboxes are currently not working on across the wiki. I think it's because you used an if statement that's hiding the image when the template is called without a parameter. (If I'm understanding what you wanted to do, the if statement is unnecessary.)

I'm guessing what you wanted to do was make: 20

By calling the template in either of the following ways: 20

Is that what you were trying to do? If so, try this code for the template:

See w:c:fortesting:Template:CopperCoinIcon and w:c:fortesting:Green Slime for example.

Templates can take hours to update across the wiki, so even if you catch and fix a mistake quickly, it can stick around for hours. Feel free to use fortesting when you're not exactly sure about stuff =)

Anywho I'll leave you to fix the templates. I could fix them myself but I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to do so I'll leave it to you. Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 02:01, February 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for informing me of that Math, I did a bit of an edit on the template pages, they should be working now. What I did was slightly different to what you suggested, but I think it should call the variable better in this way. ^_^  10 Feb, 2012 - 03:15:21am

New Template
I responded on Math's page. Also, I'm currently in the process of writing a (rather exhaustive) blog post on signature creation. I was wondering if you'd allow me to use your signature in some examples. I, of course, won't make your sig's code available... probably just some sort of quick inclusion when demonstrating the many types of signatures available. By the way, it won't be up for at least another few days. Like I said, it's exhaustive... 1,013 words so far and I don't feel I'm anywhere near completion.


 * Also, what do you think about a spawntime template for Hardmode enemies? I like the idea, but execution sounds sketchy.


 * My my! Sounds like a very exhaustive process dude. If there's anything I can contribute towards the post itself, please don't hesitate to ask me. Also, it's perfectly fine for you to use my sig as an example, heh. I'll be interested in seeing how the post turns out! (Edit:) Also, I quite like the sound of a Hardmode spawntime template, I think it'd clear up many of the pages by removing "This monster spawns when hardmode is activated" 10 Feb, 2012 - 11:26:40pm


 * Heh, it shouldn't be any problem. There's just so very little information for inexperienced users regarding signature creation... anyways, I'll try and come up with some ideas for the Hardmode template. The wiki has no unified format for Hardmode enemy spawn info. On some pages, you'll see "spawns after the Wall of Flesh is killed". On others, "spawns only in Hardmode worlds". Just about every page is different.

Remove New when you can
Hey Path as your going along making changes can you remove the word "new" from anypages you see. As in its a new item from. Since once the next update comes out it ain't new anymore. Thanks <span id="User:Gracey91" class="plainlinks">Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:53, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

News regarding templates
Hey Pathogen, since you work with templates a lot (and thank you again for the huge amount of work you've done there =), I just wanted to let you know Gracey is working on implementing a sandbox in the documentation for templates. This should allow us to make test edits and see the results without actually affecting the template itself. This is good because templates themselves aren't meant to be used for testing or frequent editing--we don't want to accidentally mess up a template, or cause extra server load by making successive edits to a template.

In the meantime, while we're waiting on the sandbox, please continue to use the For Testing Wiki to get templates functioning, and then copy/paste and publish here on this wiki once you're 100% sure that the code works the way you want. Thanks, and nice fix on the coin templates. Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 06:14, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. The Administration Discussion will likely be moving forward pretty soon, be sure to check back there in the next couple days. Also, please feel free to continue to add your ideas and state your opinions on the Video Policy Discussion and give feedback to others ideas.

Capitalization
Hey there, Path. Why do you insist that common nouns be capitalized? I'm not necessarily saying that I'm right, it's just something that bugs me, and I always try to only use capitalization on proper nouns. The wiki should have a unified format when it comes to this, so it's certainly something that needs to be discussed. I await your reply :).


 * Obvious exceptions exist, one of which being in the case of infobox text. I'd just like to prevent an edit war, which I can see happening if we don't get this sorted out. I won't change back your edit to the boulder page or any other until then.


 * Hey Dzy, was wondering if you'd notice that. I simply prefer to save clutter and page size when editing, so unless the case specifically calls for lowercase links, I use the shorthand form. I do it purely to save time, little by little. I also wouldn't like an edit war, so I'll say that now. ^ᴗ^ <span style="text-shadow: 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em #700, 0 0 0.1em #F87, 0 0.1em 0.2em #F87;">20 Feb, 2012 - 07:39:48am


 * I prefer to lowercase common nouns because that is technically the grammatically correct format. Source mode clutter only affects editors, and even then, the difference is diminutive. I can't speak for others, but it's never bothered me. I'd love to get some opinions on this matter other than our own.
 * Edit: By edit war, I didn't mean edit war in the traditional sense. For example, I revise a page, and use pipes. You do some formatting a week later and remove them. I add an image the next month and put them back. That kind of thing. It's still something I'd like to avoid.

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 18:22, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * (Inserting opinion) This is something that's important and should (eventually) become part of the editing policy, as we do need a standard here. My opinion is that item names and monster names should always be capitalized, no matter where they appear on the wiki, link or no link. This is because 1) they are keywords which need to be recognized quickly and easily by readers and 2) consistency--item and monster names are always capitalized in the game. Aside from that, I am not strongly opinionated on capitalization rules in links. But, this is something that needs to be discussed a bit further.


 * I may not agree, but if outvoted, I will happily conform to whatever policy is enacted :). What of other links, such as Statues? Statues are items in the game, but there is no item specifically titled "Statue". Then there are others, such as Tree, Version History, et cetera. A blog post or forum can be eventually created to discuss this in a cleaner fashion. Perhaps not now, because of other policy discussions, but I do feel it is something that should be worked on at some point.


 * I'd be glad to participate in a vote, should one be used to decide. Though in my own opinion; names should be capitalized regardless of whether they're in a link or not, and whether they contain a common noun or not. I also think we need to advertise the full usage of the and  templates, and finally I think we need to have a proper revision of the "Spawn" section on the monster infobox. I can't actually remember if it was Dzy or Math who suggested it, but I think the Spawn section should be changed to Spawn Conditions, then only used when special conditions are valid, such as the Wyvern spawning at only certain heights as well as only on hardmode. Just my two cents though. Update: I've also been looking further into wikitext, while doing my essays. I'm still here, just lurking more than editing at the moment. ;)  <span style="color:white; font-family: Trajan Pro; font-size: 12pt; text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.75em #F33, 0 0 0.1em #000, 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em #900;">22 Feb, 2012 - 07:47:52am


 * I did propose a Spawn Conditions section, but Gracey seemed a little iffy regarding implementation. To quote:
 * Regarding combining the 2 sections i don't have a problem its just as soon as i edit the template to change the code it will remove the spawn conditions from all the infoboxes until someone edits them an adds in the correct syntax. So if use do decide to to it you will have to edit pretty much every single monsters page. Choice is yours.
 * He hasn't yet changed the template (that I know of). Also, I (or any other user) could start a forum or blog post within which general policy may be discussed, instead of using talk pages. Awesome new sig by the way :).


 * Ah, I see. I'd be more than glad to help you go through the pages to cleanse the unneeded code, as well as add the relevant code, and I'd even be willing to do the template edit myself (Should Gracey approve and not mind) after testing it properly. Thank you for the compliment, I've been watching yours too; very nice. ^ᴗ^ I'm currently doing a huge revamp of my own pages, and relevant pages that I think actually need it (Such as the ShorthandCode page that Math drew up the original table for, and I made and maintain the template for) while watching for vandals. Heh, it's a fun thing to do to while the time away. <span style="color:white; font-family: Trajan Pro; font-size: 12pt; text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.75em #F33, 0 0 0.1em #000, 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em #900;">22 Feb, 2012 - 08:01:46am


 * I would have changed it already, as well, but it's Gracey's template, so I thought I'd leave that change to him if he wants it made at all. My sig is getting pretty irritating, what with the WebKit compatibility issues :(. If all you people would just use the superior Firefox everything would be fine, lol.

Signature Test
hi were do u liv cause i come from nz to

HERO
hey, did HERO leave the wiki?

Donoman 03:15, February 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * As far as I know he hasn't, though that remains to be seen due to his behaviour and his reaction to Sannse's decision on administrative choices.

oh O.o

Donoman 03:28, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

50.89.221.230 is the ip that vandilized the skeleton page don't know if you have the power to block him but please tell someone who can

Donoman 03:43, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

this is what he did here

Donoman 03:48, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hi im from Rotorua and i rember the message that you told me i just wanted to come back and talk so thanks.(JM Jungle Man 04:33, February 25, 2012 (UTC))

i might of made you a admin :)

(JM Jungle Man 21:24, February 25, 2012 (UTC))

I like the Signature thing.
I like the signature thing you made. I would like one too, I just need some help on how to make one.

Orion76 19:43, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

msg
I know you think i have something against you i don't, its clear you have issues with me but. I have done nothing wrong, yes i did send that message to hero but you never seen his reply or the replies i got when i request he make you a member of rollback. I would have thought you would have had the decency to ask me about it instead of openly holding it against me and just believing everything hero says. And lets be honest you have told heaps of people to GTFO so i dunno why your offended i said your sometimes rude. <span id="User:Gracey91" class="plainlinks">Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 07:33, February 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * The only reason I have something against you is because I've judged that you have something against me. My opinion of you wasn't swayed by what Hero's said or done, and you can ask Math or Dzy for confirmation on that. I didn't deny saying GTFO to a few who deserved it, nor did I say I wouldn't work on improving that habit of mine. I chose not to ask you anything because I didn't judge it worth my time. I know you have a problem with me, it's blatantly obvious, it's a lot easier if you just admit it, too.

Nominations - Please Try To Keep Things Calm
Hey, I know it's important to speak your mind, but let's not provoke one another. In particular, Pathogen -- "I chose not to ask you anything because I didn't judge it worth my time. I know you have a problem with me, it's blatantly obvious, it's a lot easier if you just admit it, too." -- These words will do nothing but provoke Gracey and do not help the situation. Remember, it is your nomination that is being discussed at the moment. You are the topic, not Gracey. You should certainly represent your position, but any comments pertaining to Gracey's editing habits or formulation of opinions are irrelevant at this time.

Gracey, your constructive criticism is rather frank and could be worded more carefully. The question of Pathogen's neutrality regarding recent events on the wiki with Hero is not very relevant to his nomination (beyond what it may say about his affinity for conflict resolution). It's also a sticky topic and should not be brought into the discussion. Furthermore, while you have been keen to offer criticism, you have hardly said a word about the good things Pathogen has done on the wiki. Given this skew, it's not surprising that Pathogen may interpret your words as biased and become offended.

TL; DR
Pathogen, Gracey is trying to offer criticism relevant to your nomination, not make a personal attack on you. Please do not be offended, nor start talking about him, as you are the topic for now. Gracey, please do not bring recent events regarding Hero into the discussion, nor formulate opinions based on that subject. Also, please try to offer a balance of criticism and praise. Basically, let's try to keep things calm. Please and thank you. Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 09:21, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Edit:
Parts of the conversation related to your nomination are on the talk page, but I think they should go on the nominations page under your nomination instead. The nomination page is only for nominations, which is why I moved Gracey's questioning of the nomination structure to the talk page. Discussions related to a particular nomination belong on the nomination page, not the talk page, which is why I would like to move some comments from there to the nomination page. See here for how I would like to organize the conversation: User:Mathmagician/sandbox. 1) Have I placed your conversation with Gracey in the right order? 2) Do you agree with including those comments on the nomination page? Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 00:27, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

ShorthandCode
In the areas where you wrote things like "" or "", please replace this code with the actual template name, i.e. "" and "". I personally find those particular abbreviations hard to remember and I think they make the code look more confusing. Also, on virtually all pages, we're currently already using the full name, not an abbreviation. So to stick with existing convention in this case, I don't support these abbreviated/redirected templates.

I did see you added a new infobox for accessories. This is good. =) Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 18:19, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Banner RE
http://i43.tinypic.com/2monk44.png

I like the overall layout of the banner! With the four icons in the corners where we could make an imagemap. Very good ideas there. I do have a few changes I would suggest though:
 * 1) Coloring: the banner is rather black and white. Could you make it more colorful? Terraria is supposed to be vibrant and full of life, you know?
 * 2) Could you make the center image (tree + "Terraria") be either corruption- or hallow-themed? I think that would be cool to represent the changes from patch 1.1. Also, can you move it down just a tad? The "W" in "Welcome" almost touches the tree, so I think the spacing needs a minor adjustment.
 * 3) Can we change the Eater of Worlds image in the bottom-right corner to a different monster? The Eater of Worlds is pretty big and takes up a lot of space. Something smaller on the scale of the other images would be nice, maybe a werewolf or something.
 * 4) Could you maybe put a thin rectangular border around the 4 corner images? If we're going to have links there, people need to know that they can actually click on those 4 parts of the banner. I think we need some way of making those 4 corner images stand out a bit more from the rest of the banner.

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 21:05, March 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello! great work on the banner! For Math's 2nd suggestion, I have made an image that has normal corruption and hallow biomes. You are free to use it If you wish!


 * Terraria_logo_by_dak47922-d4l8t7v.png


 * Dak47922 talk contrib count 21:17, March 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Heh, I can definitely see what you mean by color :P And implementing a diff image for the Monster corner, as well as a border for each, should be rather easy to do. I'll see if I can get a revision of it up as soon as possible, within hours, if I can ^^

Danakun's Problem
please read my blog, i need help. Mathmagician said to message u.

Danakun 21:20, March 4, 2012 (UTC)