User talk:The Pathogen/Archive7

Vandalism
User Nakiejuice is adding inappropriate and incorrect information to pages.

His only two edits are both vandalism.  

Would you be able to get him to stop please? Thanks :]

Also, just out of curiosity why doesn't this wiki use the Message Wall system?

Emailformygames (talk) 04:19, October 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * He's been dealt with. To my knowledge, it's due to preference of the old system. Personally, I prefer this system than the Message Wall.

Thanks!
Hi! I'm just stopping by to say hi, and thanks for protecting the wiki! --Patratswag (talk) 01:38, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

MC Wiki Adminship
You're an admin on the Minecraft Wiki, aren't you?

SilverHexxitFights (talk) 02:06, October 23, 2013 (UTC)SilverHexxitFights


 * That I am, Bureaucrat too now. :) Why so?

Catching Up
Hey Path, long time no see! Just wanted to catch up a bit if that's okay. I would try to see if you're on Steam but, it's hard to do that in real time, so I figured leaving a message is easier. How is life in your corner of the world? Last I remember you were graduating from school and moving on to work or college yeah? Done anything exciting recently? – obviously the new version of Terraria, how is it? I haven't had the chance to play it yet...

On my end, I've been just crazy busy with work and school. I'm working in an office doing data entry, editing, coding and whatnot for a company that produces online curriculum and E-learning solutions marketed to public school districts. Turns out if you know how to use wikis and MediaWiki software, you can use just about any other content management system with ease XD. Simultaneously, I'm taking night classes trying to get a master's degree, so that thing called "free time", I don't really have much of it anymore :( – but I still have time watch anime at least :)


 * Heya Math, it's good to hear from you again~! Don't worry, I've seen that you've been a little inactive on Steam, so I thought something must have come up. :) It's not all bad, summer isn't my favorite season here as it's the "least constant", in terms of weather stability. T_T At this stage, I'm preparing for my final exams, then I'm talking to an old family friend to see if I can get into an Electrical firm as an apprentice. I quite like the new versions, though it's a little hard to keep up with all the hotfixes, heh. I'm sure you'll enjoy it when you get the time to do so. ^_^


 * Wowsers, sounds like quite the workload! Though, it does sound like you don't mind all that much. :P No matter how I look at it, it's an admirable thing that you're doing. All that study, as well as having time for anime! :D

Bosses Page
would it be cool if i changed out the bosses page layout for the layout here? its all the same info except i added the ice golum to mini boss descriptions. ~ Juper0 (talk)

Icons on Main Page
How do you make those icons on the main page that direct you to different areas of the site? I especially like that they have "lava" trails on them when you mouse over.

Thanks,

SilverHexxitFights (talk) 18:21, October 26, 2013 (UTC)SilverHexxitFights

Keymold farming help?
Hey Pathogen i were just wondering if you could help me getting a Crimson Key Mold? I've tried to farm it so many times but i never seem to get it. Can you please reply on my talk page?

SwedFighter (talk) 21:15, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Accessory Template
Hey Path, I tried adding to the Accessories template as it was really outdated. I noticed that the thing is kinda messy, was wondering if you could somehow work some magic and and streamline the process a little.

Thanks :P LumpZ (talk) 14:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * This all depends on what exactly you're trying to add. D:
 * Sadly, I've been unable to play Terraria for a little while, as it's exam period for me at the moment. If I have a list of the things that should be added, though; I could look into doing so. :)

Block request
ThePathogen, please block  Arachind14 user. look at this page he created: http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/Santa_and_a_bottle_of_eggnog

MonkeyTronBlade5 (talk) 06:33, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Licensed Video Swap Tool
Hey there, The Pathogen. My name is Doug and I'm a member of Wikia's Community Development Team! Wikia has recently updated a new admin tool for videos called Licensed Video Swap. This is a new tool that allows admins to quickly swap embedded videos on your wiki from outside providers (such as Youtube, Vimeo, Dailymotion, etc) to the same (or very similar) video that exists on Wikia Video. The benefit being that the videos hosted on Wikia Video are fully licensed and will never be removed for a licensing issues.

You can read about the updates to the tool on this staff blog. and I am available to help you if you would like any assistance switching any videos out on your wiki, it's your call. Thank you and have a good one! TheBlueRogue (profile)•(talk)•(email) 22:26, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hi!
Hi there Pathos.

First I would like you to know I very much admire what your doing for the community of Terraria!

Then I'm asking myself : is this the right place to ask questions about the game ? Sorry if it is'nt!

The matter is, I'm afraid I'm stuck. I want to make the chlorophyte drill, but the drill itself is made out of chlorophyte,

and you need it to mine the chlorophyte ore. Seems impossible to me ! Could you please help me ?

Thanks for your time ! P2u (talk) 19:22, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Cactus Sword
I'm having trouble crafting the Cactus Sword. I have 84 Cacti and am at a Work Bench, but it doesn't show up when I scroll. Help?


 * The Wooden Armor and Cactus Armor don't appear either.


 * SilverHexxitFights (talk) 03:41, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

need help with skelly prime
hey dude i really need help with skelly prime he keeps on just going down in the ground around 10 or 12 and doesnt come back up we have tryed fighting at the spawn away from spawn in the dugeon area and even when skellatron normal is dead we just cant kill him i beg you plz help me with this problem

p.s this is xbox 360 edition

thx if u can help

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Disabling Achievements/Spam Blogs/other stuff
Hey Path. How're you doing?

Anyway, a few things:

Considering how we've had a large number of users creating low-content/spam blogs or otherwise farming for achievements over the past few months, I talked with a few users a little while ago (including and, among others) about potentially disabling achievements on this wiki. Would you have any particular objections if this were to happen? As I've expressed in the past, I feel like disabling achievements at this point would have minimal impact on a wiki of this size, so I'd like to think that the good in such a decision would outweigh the bad.

Additionally, do you think it would be a good idea to make a way for users on this site to propose new wiki policies? It has become more and more clear over time that there are some things (such as categories, the aforementioned blog posts, etc.) which desperately need to be regulated (or at least better explained), but there isn't really a way of doing that at the moment (there have been a couple of attempts at policy changes in the forums over the past few months, but they didn't really yield any results). What I had in mind for this purpose was creating a template like this one to be placed on the proposed policy page, then discussion about the policy would take place at Terraria Wiki talk:Policy. If need be, we could update MediaWiki:Community-corner, MediaWiki:Communitymessages-notice-msg, and MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation to make new policy proposals more visible.

Let me know what you think!

Oscuritaforze (talk) 01:42, February 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey Oscurita, long time no talk! :) Looking at the content of those blogs, as well as the recent (and not-so-recent) influxes of blogs akin to them, I can see where you're coming from. Personally, I don't mind either way; whether I'm top of the achievements board or not even in the top ten doesn't bother me as much as it used to (I was honestly pretty obsessed with maintaining the top spot for quite a while, though that was several months ago now), so I would have to say it may be a considerable option. I do think that achievement farming on a wiki as large-scale as this one (if not in general) could prove very problematic in the long-term.


 * In short, no particular objections from me. It may even prove to help the growth of the wiki, with more editors focusing on the content rather than the "rewards" so to speak. Now, in relation to the second point; I think that is an excellent idea. All of the latter suggestions appeal to me greatly, and I think it would help improve the regulation of many things on the wiki, not just "spam-like" blog posts. :)


 * tl;dr: I approve of both suggestions at this point in time, you have my ^_^


 * Pretty much everyone I talked to about it agreed, so achievements have been disabled*.


 * More importantly, the Proposed Policy template has been implemented (and mentioned in the MediaWiki pages I linked above, explained in Terraria Wiki:Policy, etc...)! I ended up creating a proposal for changes to the Image Policy in order to test it out, which can be found here. Feel free to comment on it if you have time. :)


 * * (Interesting aside about achievements: apparently, if we ever want to re-enable them, they would not actually be fully reset – instead, they would be in the state they were in when they were last disabled. Something to keep in mind if the proposed policy...policy works as planned.)


 * Oscuritaforze (talk) 22:22, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Hi
Thanks so very much for your kind words. I'm really hooked on editing right now, and there's so much work to do! Exitwound 45 (talk) 00:33, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Rollbacker nomination
Hi Path.

Not sure if you noticed, but there's a Rollbacker Nomination for that's been going for a little over a week. Would you mind commenting on it and closing it when you get the chance?

Thanks. Oscuritaforze (talk) 20:30, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

Manual of Style
Hey Path. 'S been a while, hasn't it? Hope you're doing alright.

You may or may not have noticed, but there is currently (finally!) a discussion going on regarding implementing a manual of style on this wiki. Considering how this is a particularly major policy change (based on the discussion from a few years back on the testing wiki), your input would be greatly appreciated (if you have the time to give it, of course)!

Thanks! Oscuritaforze (talk) 20:45, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for telling me. I was not aware of what I was doing was irrelevantPixel Eldon (talk) 21:28, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

Private Talk
Hey The Pathogen, I just want to ask you somethhing privatly but I don't really see you in chat and I don't want to write it on your talkpage. Where would I talk to you on. (Like an email or something)

Buggsy101 (talk) 12:36, September 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi there Buggsy, you can contact me at p4thogen@hotmail.com for any private matters, thanks. :)


 * Ok


 * Buggsy101 (talk) 12:54, September 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * I sent the email.


 * Buggsy101 (talk) 12:59, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Hey pathogen I saw what you said in my notifications and you r right cause I play kindle fire terraria and the recipe for crystal storm is different if you want to know more just give me a yell I'm on 12/7

Sorry to bother you here, but
On the Minecraft Wiki, one of my rollbacks (CP Lover 1) wants to become an administrator. I personally believe he fits the job well, and he's been contributing daily for a few months. I don't feel right making a decision like this without either you or Sharple's approval, and since he isn't active anywhere, I figured I'd ask you. I know this isn't the best place to ask, but I figured you might actually see it here :P

~Four4


 * Thanks for letting me know Four4, I've been neglecting the Minecraft wiki, and I'll be spending some more time on it in the coming weeks. Just currently focusing on the new template edits for the Terraria Wikia, as I'm one of the "head template editors" :D

Question
Hello. I saw on the Minecraft Wiki, how a notification (used to) appear (similar to the one I am reading now, telling me to use my signature). I was wondering how one would configure that - Kalbintion and I are having problems on the Hexxit Wiki with it.

Thanks,

Silver  (talk) 23:40, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

P.S. The irony: I almost forgot to sign.
 * Hey Silver, I do know how to configure those notifications, but I'll have to do some searching to refresh my memory. I'll leave you another (not the one posted 3rd Oct 2014) talkback notice when I find the solution. :)

Penny krypton
You seen Penny krypton yet? I smell Moon... again. Oh lord. I can interrogate her on chat, if you want. Silver  (talk) 18:33, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have seen, though I'm giving that particular one a couple days at least to be sure. I'm also waiting on a reply from Wikia staff for permission to get the CheckUser extension enabled for my account, so that I may properly check the IP of any and all users, primarily to catch ban dodgers like a certain Nadie we're all so fond of.


 * Okay, thanks. I'll be sure to keep you updated on any incidents with her. Silver  (talk) 19:45, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Ban request for Penny krypton
Hi there, Path. Penny turned out to be another sockpuppet of Moon's. She reached out and contacted me via Private Message on the chat. She requested that all her accounts be un-banned and that she would follow the rules. I told her that we can't bend the rules for her nor can we ignore all the rules she's broken. Anyways, do you mind perma' blocking the Penny account? I've already banned it from chat. If you wish to see the hard evidence, (I have screen shots of the conversation) you can reach me in the chat. Thanks.

TerrariamcSwaggins ( Those who are victorious plan effectively and change decisively. They are like a great river that maintains its course but adjusts its flow. ) ( Talk Page ) 23:40, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Spanish Wiki wordmark
Hi The Pathogen, in the Spanish Wiki, i changed the wordmark, please, add it to the Main Page: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb106/terraria/es/images/8/89/Wiki-wordmark.png

I dont speak english (Google Translate)

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140828202553/lordender/es/images/8/88/Estrella_de_Lordo.png LordEnder  |  Talk  |  Contribs  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140829145755/lordender/es/images/7/76/Estrella_de_Trufas.png 18:12, October 12, 2014 (UTC)



Emoticon
Dear Pathos,

Usually Forze would handle this kind of thing, but since he is on a break I'll ask you.

Could you add this image as an emoticon to be used in chat? As you might know, when the profanity filter on the Terraria Community Forums is turned on, every swear word will be replaced by this picture of Redigit's face. However, it has grown to be popular to just insert this face instead of swearing. The command for this is :red:.

I thought it'd be funny if we had this for our chat room as well. Possibly also under the command :red:.

Also, Forze sometimes said that emoticons have to be 19x19 pixels to work, but I tested this emoticon over on the Terraria Fan Ideas Wiki and it worked, although it was a bit squished.

Ratio et Veritas Hunited Talk page 01:07, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Gonna have to work on a 19x19 version if we want ol' Red to join us in chat sadly... :/ Tried it out just before, and it squished the entire picture into the 19x19 space! D:


 * I made a 19x19 version :D!
 * ;red;.png's so cute and tiny
 * Ratio et Veritas Hunited Talk page 20:19, October 30, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding a certain user's edits
From what I can tell, this user's edits have all been vandals and incorrect information. Some dressed as what might be true making them slightly harder to detect, in particular their edits on the Angler and Fishing pages. Certainly most of their edits went unnoticed by our rollbacker and contributors. I would've noticed this much earlier if I had been active for the last 3 weeks, but I only just now had the opportunity to confirm the validity of their edits. Seeing as the user has repeated offenses, leaving no doubt that it was done by mistake or misguided good will, a block might be called for. Freenight (talk) 16:09, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

"Dawn of the serpant"
Nadie's created another alt. I already got her on the AJ Wiki. 652Graystripe Talk page Contributions Edit count 15:13, October 19, 2014 (UTC) and who is this nadie you speak of
 * Thank you for informing me, this level of ban evasion and sockpuppet use will not be tolerated.

Ban request
Hey there, Path. is another one of Nadie's sockpuppets. I've already banned the alternate account from chat, do you mind blocking it? I'd do it myself, but I'm not an Admin. Thanks!

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~  02:19, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks for reminding me that this one hadn't been picked up. :)

About a certain user's profile
So far has been making vandal pages/edits. None of them were worth keeping. I've discussed it with the other chat mods, and we feel that the user is a troll judging from their profile page(as well as their edits), in particular this. A ban might be called for. Sorry to bother you, have a nice day. Freenight (talk) 02:49, October 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree with Free, here. As I see it, this user is clearly a vandal/troll. As Free does, I also think that a ban is called for.


 * (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~  02:57, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Warnings Ignored, Ban Request
The user has ignored the warnings given and this is their latest edit. Mind blocking the user? Thanks. Freenight (talk) 09:15, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Another Vandal
We had another idiot messing up a few pages earlier. A block is called for I think. Freenight (talk) 02:25, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Terrarianator
I cant see anything wrong with my edits they are helpful and I'm getting annoyed because there is nothing wrong with it. Terrarianator (talk) 02:08, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Tell ur friends to stop rejecting me when they ask for me to go there stupid


 * Terrarianator, we asked you for proof of age as we believe you are violating the COPPA laws that this wiki works with. Until some sort of proof is (or intent to give said info) shown, we will be waiting on your response. Thank you.

Your friends are going against the terms of use so they are in the wrong.
 * Considering the reasons for us asking your age, I'd love to hear a compelling argument that would make us drop suspicions that you are breaking the COPPA policy. Thanks.

anyway thanks for cleaning up my edit 😃
 * I believe I requested something, Terrarianator. Please do decide to help us clear this up.

I. Think you should just drop it i know im over 13 And it's against terms of use to request my age i wont give that information and i dont know why you think I'm violating COPPA

Hello
I was wondering if I could meet you on chat shortly? I have an issue I'd like to discuss. Silver  (talk) 01:00, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

Chat?
Heya, Path,

Could you hop into the chat sometime soon? I believe had something he had to run by you and I have a few questions that I'd like to ask. (Just ping me if you get the chance to step in; I may be AFK when you do so.) Thanks in advance!

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~  02:58, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Heya, Path. Would you mind hopping into the chat for a bit? I don't think I'll keep you for too long, and it is indeed fairly important. Thanks!

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~  17:35, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Forze's nomination
Hiya, Path. ^_^)/

Forze's nomination has been going for well over a week now, so I think it's about time you close it and grant him the rights, aye? I'm assuming that you've been busy with the holidays and stuff, so no worries; there's no rush.

That said, if you're too busy to close it within the next day or so, I'll likely just close it myself and notify you regarding it.

Thanks! ^u^

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~  08:10, January 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * Heya mcSwaggins, just been thinking about this myself! I definitely think we've left it long enough, as well as seeing the overwhelming support for the promotion. I'll close it now and grant the rights. :)


 * Awesome! I'm glad we got that wrapped up. :3


 * (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~  08:30, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

I shouldn't have thought about her earlier today
Yep, Moon's back. Here she is.

Silver  (talk) 03:10, January 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * I was sure that I blocked the IP she was editing from at least once before. Hopefully this'll do it this time. (For any other admins wondering, this definitely is Nadie/Moon/who I call the "Sockpuppet Queen". I'm happy to inform you of my method in private if need be.)


 * That is something I would be interested in knowing. You can let me know in IRC or on Steam or something. Oscuritaforze (talk) 22:13, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

Interview
Hiya, Path! To follow up on the exchange we had over on the Bugle in regards to the interview, I'm typically online (in the chat) on any given day, from about 5:00 PM to 10:00 PM (11:00 AM - 4:00 PM, your time, I believe.). That said, you're welcome to stop in between those times for us to conduct the interview.

If you're looking for a more specific time, you can probably drop in at around 11:30 AM (your time) tomorrow and we can conduct the interview. If that doesn't work, I'll be up quite late on Friday so you could likely stop by at any time between 11:00 AM and 6:00 PM for us to take care of the interview.

Thanks! ^u^

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~ 22:40, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey there mcSwaggins, sorry for not getting back to you sooner! I should be available today within that time frame, likely within 30-60 minutes from the time of posting, up to a good few hours from now. (Just a few things to get done IRL beforehand ^_^)

Noob in need
Hello, Path! I saw your post on the help needed forum. I am just starting out but this game has quickly become one of my favorites! I was wondering if you could provide some help in general, I have the 360 version, if you are only on steam could I perchance have some beginner's tips? I can't seem to make any decent money for equipment and I can seem to go anywhere without getting my face ripped off. This has become a sad cycle. I've tried searching all over but eveyone's "money making guides" usually involve some crazy complex mechanisms and ores I haven't even seen yet. same issue with good gear. Any help is appreciated. Theis s my first post so I hope I am signing it correctly. Thanks in advance! Eichimaru (talk) 23:43, January 21, 2015 (UTC)Eichimaru
 * Hi there Eichimaru, and welcome to the Terraria community! Looking at how I first started in Terraria, these tips always helped:
 * It never hurts to stock up on any and all potion ingredients you come across, but prioritizing the ingredients for Lesser Healing Potions when possible.
 * I always stock up on wood early in the game, even if I have to cut down every tree in sight and then plant more.
 * Never engage an enemy that you don't think you can take, unless you don't mind losing some coins.
 * Remember that before you get the Magic Mirror or Teleportation Potion, you can always save and quit to return to your set spawn point, should you get stuck or go mining too deep.
 * You won't be making any large amount of money any time in pre-hardmode easily, so I would recommend focusing on just getting accessories, weapons and armor at this stage. Remember that once you hit the dungeon, you can always have some blocks on your hotbar to block all but the Dark Casters projectiles and the Spike Ball.
 * Don't be afraid to spend considerable amounts of time digging into caves to find ore. It may seem a bit slow or unsuccessful at first, but you can always get lucky. (Also, it always seems to be that little bit further than when you give up that something good is there, waiting to be found.) Also, the deeper you go, the rarer the ores that will spawn, as well as the lower-tier ores in greater quantity.
 * Remember that a Campfire will always help around your base, and it doesn't hurt to have one in your inventory when exploring, just in case you'd rather quick regen than using a potion. (Also, once you can craft Heart Lantern &mdash; usually done after you hit 400/400 health &mdash; I'd recommend carrying a couple of those too.
 * That's just a few of my tips, but I hope they'll come in handy when you play. :)

Alliance
Hello Pathogen. I don't know if you remember me, but I do remember you. I wanted to tell you that my wiki, the Terraria Mobile Wiki, has now reached 200 pages. I wanted to ask you one more time about an alliance because I think it will be mutually beneficial to both of us. I know that right now it may not be looking to profitable but our community is growing. Several of your users are helping out on my wiki and some of ours on yours. Our views too, our going up. I know you postponed the alliance plan, but after reaching this landmark I am sure we will never leave our wiki to die and I'm sure if not today, one day we will have an alliance.

I ask of you merely one thing. A highighted thread asking your wikians how they feel about this issue. If they decline, I will not ask any more of you. If they accept, it is up to you.

Thank you,

Darthwikia25 06:43, January 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Also, I forgot to mention that our wiki will be under yours, like you can supervise, you can help and all that. It is more of offering your wiki to be like a 'parent' wiki to ours. Please do consider.


 * Darthwikia25 11:33, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi there Darthwikia25. I was just reminded that a discussion has already been hosted regarding the Mobile Wiki as an affiliate to this wiki, and a decision was reached that it wasn't particularly needed. Unless I get the approval of at least two more admins, I cannot single-handedly decide to accept this proposal.


 * Pathogen, that discussion took place when our wiki had less than 100 pages. You cannot get an approval without consulting others. If possible, please host another such discussion and if possible, reach a final conclusion.
 * I know you feel that it won't be beneficial now, but trust me, I will be at that moment when our wiki reaches 2000 pages. I promise you that this alliance won't go in vain. I promise.
 * Darthwikia25 12:38, January 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Now that they've reached 200 pages, I personally wouldn't be opposed to having an affiliation with them. I still maintain and believe that there isn't a particular need for a mobile wiki, but I don't necessarily see any harm in forging an alliance. I'll try and get in touch with Forze in regards to this later today and direct him to this conversation.


 * (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~ 17:33, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Forze, Gray and SIlver are already helping our wiki out alot so an unofficial alliance has already been formed. More members of your wiki might soon join so the reciprocal may also be true after a few months. Please do reconsider my request.

(Reset indentation) I think you misread my post, because I said like two times that I'd be fine with the affiliation. :P I may actually reconsider, though. I talked with Oscuritaforze last night and he said that there might be issues. I didn't even consider that there'd be issues, so I may have to revise my original post if there is indeed some serious issues.

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~ 17:04, January 27, 2015 (UTC)


 * Swaggins, I was discussing with Pathogen about the alliance, I noted what you said and was just adding to it. Also, please tell me what those issues may be if I could prevent them from happening.


 * Darthwikia25 09:30, January 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay. For the record, though, I don't think I seen anywhere in Path's post wherein he said that he'd be directly opposed to the idea, so I still don't see what he has to "reconsider".


 * As for the issues, like I said in my above post, I guess Forze is going to be making a post here regarding that, and if the issues he brings up are serious enough, I'll likely revise my original statement. So you're gonna have to wait for his post here, because I'm not exactly sure what it entails.


 * (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~ 13:40, January 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * As stated, I am not opposed to the idea; I am just stating that we need mutual agreement throughout the administrators before we can allow this. I am also waiting on  post and I would recommend you do the same before continuing with any further messages (as nothing further is likely to be done until the post is made and discussed).

(Reset indentation) Yeah, sorry for the late response. Took a bit of an impromptu break from this wiki while taking care of stuff elsewhere.

Anyway, as I see it, affiliating with wikis which focus on different versions of Terraria is more difficult to justify than doing the same with wikis like the Fan Ideas Wiki or the versions of this wiki in other languages. The reason for this is that the latter types have sufficiently different focuses from this wiki (whether it be language spoken or content covered) that they can offer content to users which is not offered here.

However, in the case of this wiki and the mobile wiki, both staying in their current forms would only end up splitting the fanbase – a problem which is exacerbated by affiliation due to the interwiki linking going on.

In order to justify this affiliation in a similar fashion to the others, some changes would have to be made. However, the most likely change to make would be cutting all mobile exclusive content from this wiki and cutting all non-mobile exclusive content from the other wiki. I just don't see this as particularly viable.

Long story short, the wikis are similar enough in their current forms to nearly be considered duplicates, so affiliation is fairly difficult to justify.

Oscuritaforze (talk) 02:24, January 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * I feel that's well justified, Forze. Nothing against the Mobile Wiki Darth, but there really is no need for affiliation in this light.


 * Its quite all right. If it is not possible, then let it be so. I wish you all well on your wiki.
 * Darthwikia25 09:43, January 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * I am also in agreement with Forze, here. I do not see it being viable to cut out content from both wikis, either.


 * (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ ( The Terrarian Bugle ) ~ ( Contact me )┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~  13:49, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Help for beating Twins.
Aiight. So here is my problem, I can't seem to find a good melee strat for Twins. I'm not dodgy enough for ranged and Magic. Is it possible to use melee? I can get the Excaliber, but not sure I want to waste those Hallow bars on it. Wouldn't the light disk help more? Icey778 (talk) 06:16, January 28, 2015 (UTC)Icey


 * Hello Icey. You may not have asked me the question but I do know how you can easily beat the twins. Make a skybridge out of stone and just get the Clockwork Assault Rifle. Combine it with either Crystal or Cursed bullets. Shoot at the Twins continously and run like you would face the WoF. I suggest at least Mythril/Orichalcum armor and if possible- speed boots. REMEMBER! This is just the easiest tactic. If you get stronger weapons, other tactics are also usable.


 * I hope this helped! :)


 * Darthwikia25 09:36, January 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hmm how many bullets would I need? Nvm I beat him thanks. Icey778 (talk) 15:46, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Good luck with other bosses :)
 * Darthwikia25 09:33, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Further updating Template:UpdateInfo
Hey Path.

Waaaay back when we were discussing changes to the update info template, I believe I mentioned wanting to modify said template to no longer use the  parser so as to make Special:Wantedpages useful again and to avoid running into the problem of using too many instances of an "expensive" parser on a single page.

Well, I just thought I'd let you know that I finally got around to doing that. This template should work more or less the same as the current version, only making use of  instead of. (The only issue I've run into is a minor spacing one, but I found a workaround which seems to do the job alright.)

As another thing, suggested combining the PC update info template with the console and mobile ones in order to make a unified update info template which works for all versions of Terraria. I don't think that would be practical due to how enormous such a template would end up being, but I do think making a meta-template which can be the base for all update info templates (like did with the item infobox) might be something to consider.

Let me know what you think! Oscuritaforze (talk) 05:35, February 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Heya Forze, I do like the idea of a unified template, though I also agree that it would end up as a massive page should everything be included in the one. If we unify them in the same manner as the Item infoboxes, then I think that could be done in a very resource-efficient manner. I very much like the look of your implementation of the  function, and I do also think it's about time we "upped the ante" on our current UpdateInfo template. Regarding the spacing issue you mentioned, was it whitespace-related or something relating to the visible output of the template? I'm curious as to how you got around whichever issue you ran into, as one who enjoys writing up template code. :)


 * Alright, I'll see about updating the template further over the next couple of days, then. One last thing to note which slipped my mind in the initial post, though: the template I created uses colons and semicolons to separate out different parts of update info rather than just having everything be separated by vertical bars. I didn't want to do it this way if I could avoid it, but this does mean the template call will have to be changed on every page which currently uses UpdateInfo.


 * As for the spacing issues, there were actually two of them now that I think about it. You can see the first one in the current version of this page (which more or less uses [ this version] of the template on this wiki). I think it was caused by the couple dozen or so empty parameters still taking up space on the page in spite of being, well, empty. This issue was resolved by [ this change].

tags and a couple instances of the trim template), so I figured it would do for now.
 * However, the above solution led to another problem. The commenting out of the whitespace between the parameters made it so every version number link besides the first one was technically on the same line as the preceding update note, which led to the template displaying like this:
 * v1.0.6.1
 * Patched bug where the slime would sink into the ground.v1.0.5
 * Removed splash sound, given ability to float in water.
 * Damage reduced from 8 to 6.
 * Defense reduced from 2 to 0.
 * Health reduced from 15 to 14.v1.0.0
 * Introduced.
 * I eventually worked around this one with [ this edit] by inserting manual line breaks and invisible spans at the start of every  statement. This solution still leaves a little extra whitespace at the start of the "added" parameter if said parameter is the only one used, but I couldn't find a better solution in spite of much searching and trial and error (including, but not limited to, trying


 * Oscuritaforze (talk) 08:11, March 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * After a quick search through all of the mentioned pages and revisions, I concur that it must have something to do with all of the empty parameters and how Wikia perceives them. (I liked the small-emoticon-touch on the invisible spans, by the way!) Thinking of how we could move over to the new template design, would it be better form to leave it on a different page until we've completed (or nearly completed) the transition over? Then a simple redirect+page move could replace the original UpdateInfo template with this updated one, and a mass-bot-edit could clean up the remaining redirected pages throughout the wiki? (Or even just leave the page at the different URL, so that we don't break any pages still using UpdateInfo that we may have missed for some reason.) Also I have noticed that you've limited the #explode parsers to a maximum five inputs each; is this to restrict overuse? I doubt many changelogs would even come close to that limit without a large patch or bugfix, but it is a possible concern in future. (I could be completely off on this, as I'm sure you're still considering ways to improve or change the template, right up until it becomes the norm.)


 * To make sure we're on the same page, the process you are suggesting for transitioning over to the new design would be something like this, right?:
 * User:Oscuritaforze/sandbox/Template:UpdateInfo would be moved to Template:AllUpdateInfo, or the like.
 * The syntax for calling UpdateInfo would be updated from the old system to the new system on all pages which use that template (using a bot, if possible?).
 * Once the above transition is done, one of two things would happen:
 * AllUpdateInfo would be moved to UpdateInfo, or
 * UpdateInfo would be redirected to AllUpdateInfo, then a bot would be used to clean up all the redirect links across the wiki.
 * If so, then that is a procedure which I can agree with.


 * As for the update notes, yeah, I thought of the potential problem of future patches requiring more space, but then I figured that five would be good enough for now so as to keep an already huge template from becoming even more ridiculously large. (Incidentally, I also thought that support for 24 updates might be overkill (as that allows for notes to be written for every current update plus 1.3), but then I decided that we'd better be safe than sorry if there are some forgotten pages for entities which have been changed in every update.)


 * Fake edit: I left Dzylon a message about this, and he came up with a different updated version of the template here (in action). I actually think his version is quite a bit better than the one I created (for the reasons I listed ). What do you think?


 * Oscuritaforze (talk) 05:56, March 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Currently, I'm thinking that there would be no real downside to implementing the template mentioned in the fake edit above, so I'll put it into effect a little later today if you don't have any objections.


 * Oscuritaforze (talk) 23:18, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, it may be about a week and half later than I had originally anticipated, but the update info template has itself been updated. I also made some changes to how said template automatically categorizes pages (will finish fixing categorization once Special:Wantedcategories updates) and made Template:ConsoleUpdateInfo dependent on it as a meta template.

However, the reason I was a bit late with the updates may still be a problem. The original intent was to also convert Template:MobileUpdateInfo to be dependent on Template:UpdateInfo, but considering how much of a convoluted mess the mobile version's update history is – both in general (in that there are four separate mobile "sub-versions" on different platforms with different patch numbering schemes) and on the actual page for it here – such a change seems like it would be significantly more difficult than I originally thought, if it is even viable at all.

I'm...not quite sure where I'm going with this, but I thought I'd let you know nonetheless.

Oscuritaforze (talk) 02:25, March 15, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know so concisely Forze. I'll have a look at it as soon as my condition/situation allows. I really want to see this implemented and working nicely and efficiently together, so that we may streamline the wiki more. Further, I'd like to both congratulate you and thank you for the vast amounts of work that you've put towards this as a movement, and for your other changes on the wiki. I understand others are definitely doing a lot too, but as a "primarily-behind-the-scenes" template, I believe this deserves recognition. Thank you and good job so far. :)