Talk:Queen Bee

Bugs
What's that bug about two spawning Queen Bees mean? Do two of them spawn from one larval cell or can two of them be on screen at the same time? The latter wouldn't be a bug as this is also possible for other bosses. --DoubleFloat (talk) 10:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It means two larvae can be in 1 hive, although this is actually caused by two overlapping hives. Anonymous132547698 (talk) 16:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Persistent Vandal
There is a persistent anonymous vandal that has commited to inserting random bee-puns into the entry, mostly by changing the "Behavior" entry to "Bee-havior" or some variation of it. I have been reverting such changes for several weeks now. The IPs this vandal has posted from include 37.57.116.112, 75.156.41.124, 98.246.97.172, 75.165.126.40, 75.82.252.76, and 96.240.135.186. Should this notice itself be vandalized, information is in the page history. --74.215.238.52 13:38, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I think there are several people who have been restoring it. I've never been one of them, but I've just done it. Most people seem to like it, or are at least not too bothered by it, as the heading spends most of its time in its pun state, while users edit around it. I think a policy of "lighten up" might be best. Plus, it's funny :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 04:21, 1 Jun 2014 (UTC)
 * Funny or not, vandalism is vandalism and against rules. FyreNWater (talk) 08:30, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Question is: is this actually vandalism? Wikipedia's definition of vandalism is an edit which deliberately attempts to "compromise the integrity" of the website, typical examples being the insertion of "irrelevant obscenities", "crude humor" and "obvious nonsense". Bee-havior, however, seems like a minor humorous play on words. It doesn't ruin the article, nor does it provide irrelevant or unrelated content (I'd say it oppositely is more precise). When editing this wiki I think it is important to remember what it's actually a wiki about: a computer game intended for entertainment. A wiki's role is indeed to provide objective information in a fashionable manner, but in Terraria Wiki's case it's also a means to further the entertainment of the game. This doesn't mean it should include all kinds of stupid nonsense and poor jokes, but I'd say it's fine with occasional subtle jokes that don't derail from the topic. Bee-havior is, in my opinion, such a joke. It simply adds some humor without the article suffering from it, and so I think it's rather dry to treat it as vandalism. As Equazcion suggests, all those IPs may simply be people who remember/come up with the joke, not some hardcore vandal hellbent on destroying the Queen Bee article. I don't want to fight with you, FyreNWater, but I'd be grateful if you could try see this from my perspective (having once refrained from undoing it as I likewise though it was funny). I'm sorry for the large amount of text. NoseOfCthulhu (talk) 01:53, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that this Wiki could take a stance like Dwarf Fortress Wiki does: there's dedicated section for jokes/humorous attempts at the end of most articles. 217.99.81.72 15:55, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I edited it out a couple of days ago, but it's back there now and I'm gonna go ahead and leave it. I thought it was pretty humorous at the time, actually, but reasoned that the behind-the-scenes debate surrounding it was entirely unnecessary, because few other boss pages actually use "behavior" as the heading for the boss's attacks. Feel free to object to my rationale, but pragmatically speaking, it's either an easy pun that's gonna come from dozens of passerby editors over a long period, or actually the dedicated efforts of a small group, in which case we'd have to dig in for a long edit war to keep a single E off the page. In either case it's easier to just let it slide, because it would seem disproportionately Draconian to lock the page, and if it's already there then no one else can add it (meaning less people hitting the edit button and getting smart ideas). I'm probably overthinking this but I had free time on my hands.
 * That being said, while I'm not opposed to the occasional joke, I do think turning this into Amateur Hour at Terraria Wiki is a terrible idea. Considering the number and quality of attempts at "humor" that I revert every time I roll by, encouraging more people to add "haha poop" at the end of every article is not workable. --Gearzein (talk) 04:11, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

renewable?
The page says that the abeemination is made from renewable resources, but the recipe includes hive blocks. In what way, if any, are these renewable, short of creating a new world?--Macks2008 (talk) 05:49, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not. That claim could've been present for any number of reasons. The original writer may have meant that it "uses renewable items" in that some of its ingredients are renewable, which is factual but misleading. They also may have been mistaken about the use of the Hive Wand, referring to an older recipe, or forgetting about hive blocks entirely. In any case I've removed the note.
 * Also, if you see an inconsistency like this, feel free to look into it yourself and make any necessary changes. Gearzein (talk) 17:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok. Yeah, normally I do look into this sort of thing on my own, but I had already done that and found no conclusive information either way. Thanks Gearz--Macks2008 (talk) 19:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Honey Comb
The page, as of July 12, 2015, says that there is a 100% chance of obtaining a Honey Comb as a drop, when playing in Expert Mode. However, when I was playing recently (with a friend), we defeated her a total of four times, each only obtaining the Honey Comb on the fourth try. Has anyone else had this experience? - 162.157.124.35 09:49, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I did, it is %66 indeed, not %100 --EstebanLB (talk) 23:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * There seems to be a bit of a contradiction - the article lists her drops to the right, and states "One of the first 3 items will always drop". The first three listed items are currently the Bee Gun, Bee Keeper, and The Bee's Knees.
 * But over to the left we're told "Exactly one, and only one, of the Bee Keeper, Bee Gun, or Honey Comb will always drop upon defeating the Queen Bee". So should The Bee's Knees be moved down the list to the right, to underneath the Honey Comb?
 * I get the impression that the reality is that, whether you're on expert mode or not, you've got a 100% chance of getting one item from the pool of the Bee Keeper, Bee Gun, The Bee's Knees, or the Honey Comb - meaning a 25% chance for each item.
 * A 66% chance doesn't make any sense at all, if at least three of the items really are mutually exclusive drops. Or can you get multiple items from the pool in expert mode, sometimes? I know I haven't. - 147.69.176.72 10:35, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Me neither and I've killed the Queen Bee a dozen times now and haven't seen a single Bee Gun. I'm suspecting that either the 25% chance assumption is correct, or it's 33% between the Bee Keeper, Bee's Knees and Honey Comb and the Bee Gun's drop rate has changed since they added the achievement perhaps. Edit: Scratch that. I think the most likely case is a 20% chance for exactly one of the Bee Gun, Honey Comb, Bee's Knees, Bee Keeper and Hive Wand. It seems a lot more consistent with my experience so far. - 94.67.216.127 01:38, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This is a conversation from six months ago referring to an error that is no longer on the page. The Expert Mode drop rates for all items were incorrect, because the Queen Bee doesn't drop any items in expert mode other than its bag, and treasure bags draw from different tables entirely instead of just doubling the existing changes. On the Treasure Bag page it's clarified- the "one of these three" chance is split between the Bee Gun, Bee's Knees and Bee Keeper. Gearzein (talk) 04:58, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Bee Wax and Beenades
Bee's wax and beenades drop rate seems to be incorrect, I am consistently getting lower than 40 on expert.

Hive Wand
I got Hive wand each time I've killed the bee(bout 10 expert) AND a piece of clothes. That wand DOES NOT count toward "one of this four items" as the page says. It's a standalone drop chance. 51.83.109.138 15:54, 6 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I can only repeat what Gearzein wrote two paragraphs above this: The drop rates listed in the infobox are exclusively referring to normal mode. In Expert mode, the Queen Bee only drops its Treasure Bag, which has a different loot table. You would need to check Treasure Bags § Queen Bee to obtain information about that. --Rye Greenwood (talk) 22:50, 6 July 2019


 * Oh, thaks. I didn't know that. Thought it's like a whole summary. 94.23.169.231 14:48, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * No problem. I must admit that it may indeed be misleading. --Rye Greenwood (talk) 15:15, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Honeyed Goggles drop chance
The drop list states that the honeyed goggles have a 5% chance to drop, but the E.M. chance is 1.1%. Is this correct? The goggles should have a better chance of dropping, not lower. Eleven percent would make sense, is there just a typo?
 * It was a typo; the treasure bag page lists a 11% chance of them dropping. –KM100 (talk) 15:39, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Should this be added to the trivia section?
I just experienced the ocassion where a queen bee spawns right after generating a world, now this might not be a bug but rather lava or something else generating near it's spawner, causing it to spawn just seconds after you first load into the map, i know this isn't really helpfull but i think it'd fit into the trivia section that it is possible the queen bee will spawn right as you first enter a world, sure scared the shit out of me.

Not despawning after player dead / teleport
It seems this is no longer true, as she despawned on me four times, two of which were caused by teleportation. 79.184.71.1 12:54, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Were the other two times after you died? How far from spawn were you? Here's a gif of a player's death and the Queen Bee not despawning (which was recently uploaded). – Ferretwings  (talk ) 22:27, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Queen Bee concept art
Is there any way the original queen bee concept art sprite will be on the trivia page?
 * I don't see why not. Feel free to add it (Special:Upload), but make sure to include the source and, if it is not obvious, some sort of verification that it is real. --Rye Greenwood (talk) 17:08, 28 April 2019 (UTC)