User talk:Mathmagician/3

Vandalism
Could you block 94.1.148.19 for is edits to the WoF page. Thanks!

Dak47922 talk contrib count 18:41, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding a matter.
Meet me in chat. Koggeh

New Template
Against my better judgment, I went ahead and made a template. Please review this page and make a decision. Having two seperate templates for day and night, in my opinion, takes up infobox space needlessly. Mummy page before and after the new template.

Edit: I used anytime after recalling a time when Gracey said that American English should always be used. I also capitalized the first letter so that it would conform with the other spawntime templates. I believe that it looks better with the first letter lowercased, but I decided to play it safe, lol. I tend to overthink things.

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 22:48, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice. I like the new template, looks good, conserves space. You might want to get Path's opinion too, he's the one who made the Day and Night templates I believe. I prefer the first letter capitalized myself, but it's not a huge deal to me.


 * I never made the D/N Templates with the intention of using them both together, so this bodes very well with me. ^_^ Nice Idea Dzy. 10 Feb, 2012 - 11:06:57pm


 * Glad to see you both like it, lol. Path, I was just in the process of leaving you a message, but you posted before I could.

Broken Link
Gracey deleted the Plant Monsters page, so the Plant Monsters link in the subnav Basics > Monsters is broken.

Edit: Swimming Monsters as well.

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 21:28, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I removed those broken links from the nav bar.

Dratinis been removed too
Hey i just recently noticed something, when hero went on his power bender he also took the step of removing Dratini from the admins list on the Nav so can you please correct this by removing hero and re-adding the founder. Thanks Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 05:18, February 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:05, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

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Templates
Hey Math lately i've noticed people have been editing the templates on the wiki quite alot. There also using them to do test which is completely unacceptable. I think it is time we begin to enforce the "all changes should be preposed on the template talk page and an admin makes the edit". The reasons are:


 * When a template is edited it creates extra load for the server which slows the site. Not a big deal but not something we want when someone just wants to test something, also remember that test will affect around 200 pages in 1 hit, could be more depending on the template.


 * Wikia's cache update sucks so it will generally only pick up the first edit, which in many of these cases is a test or the user makes more changes after there first edit. It will then take around 48 hours before all users see the template the way it should have been. A screw up by a user can destroy all the pages the template is used on. I have seen the damage an inexperienced user can do to templates, and its bad.


 * Some of the people editing them have no real idea what they are doing and shouldn't be allowed to make changes just because they think they think they know what they are doing.


 * Many of the changes people have made seem to work but infact they are incorrect or use outdated tags, missing tags or are browser incapatible. All of which creates issues.


 * People have also being making stupid "fixes" to templates, opposed to bring the issue to an experienced users attention where it could have easily been fixed in a normal way not in a bush mechanic way.

Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 10:20, February 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just realized you probably have no idea what a bush mechanic is so here is a clip. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 10:29, February 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I suppose you're (at least partially) speaking of me. My apologies. I'll be sure not to do any work on templates in the future, and if I do, it will only be forwarded to a more experienced user.


 * Don't take it personally Dzylon a number of users edit templates, we even have the odd ip who finds an unprotected one and changes it. I plan to make a slightly more experienced than average users guide to try to cover all this. There are a number of easy fixes, such as adding sandbox's to each doc so the user can test any changes they feel is needed. I'm sure this just seems like another thing to slow you down but it will honestly help as users like yourself will probably be looking over the changes and seeing whats going on. Which will help you learn more about how each template works, it also allows you a chance to question whats going on and make a suggestion in a more central place. This also wont be a factor when it comes to making a new template like you and others have been doing, i just want to make sure when changes are made to templates that are on a large amount of pages nothing is missed and it is done correctly to reduce server load and ensure we are displaying what we want people to see on pages. If we do this it wont be a process or anything like that, just a note on the talk page saying what needs to be done and an example of a working model would help. Btw this is just me chatting with math about the idea, we could take another path so don't feel you need to stop making edits in a certain namespace.


 * lol look what math has done to me, all my messages use to be short. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 13:31, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation page
Hello! I changed the Bats Page into a disambiguation page. Can you check it out to make sure I did it correctly. Thanks!

Dak47922 talk contrib count 17:55, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Image Policy
Can you add to the image policy that images in the .png format are preferred? Jpeg is incredibly lossy, and presents rather low quality content on content pages (screenshots exempt).

Edit: Also, in a game like Terraria, graphics are usually highly pixelated. In pixelated images such as those, artifacts are exponentially worse than they might be in a photograph, where tiny pixel errors go largely unnoticed.


 * One more thing. If you'll notice, I converted the anvil page into a disambiguation page. There are only two items, I know, but there's a reason as to why I made the change. On many pages, the infobox lists the item as only craftable at an iron anvil. This isn't quite true, as those items can also be crafted at a mythril anvil, so I was thinking it'd be best to link to simply "Anvil", which is more accurate, as the mythril variant is included on that page. My change has no foreseeable repurcussions, as all of the links to Iron Anvil have not been broken... those links can simply be changed to link to anvil instead, as time passes.
 * As always, just undo my edits if you don't agree with them :).

RE:templates
Per the templates i don't really want to increase the protection just let the users know that they shouldn't edit them without first making sure the change is needed. The reason is small things like name changes or one extra item being added isn't something we should waste time on approving and i want users just to make those changes. I think more of a trust style idea would work. So pretty much only allow users to make edits when they know what there doing and its a needed edit, if its not needed instantly or just a suggestion they should prepose it on the templates talk page with an editprotected template. There aren't a great deal of people who edit them so we can easily notify the users who do and when other see how its done they will just adopt the same style hopefully. I also plan on writing a bit of a help page on templates and some other things to help users understand why templates have to be treated differently to a page. I don't think i really need anything from you i just wanted your opinion on the subject. I will sum up on chat Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 05:30, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

Think I'm done
Ok math i have made some changes and think i have all we need to do this. So this is the template that users would add to the template talk page. Then we have the talk page header which just goes at the top. Last off i added the sandbox to the documentation template as well as some other links. If you have any suggestions let me know. I also plan to still add a bit of a help page, i hope people read it this time. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 09:23, February 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Btw all of them are on fortesting so you can test there and remember the Template edit template will only work correctly on template talk pages. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 09:24, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

Hey! I wanted to ask if oyu knew how to put an image or a picture in a comment. If you have time please answer. Thanks!

Tadz99 16:26, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

is it [end]drama[/end] yet? Because I get tired of seeing the admins (any) being mentioned in completely unrelated edits or user comments... I want my popcorn. Michelrpg 22:48, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki Linking
The Russian based wiki prominently displays a link to ours on their front page. Shouldn't we be doing the same?


 * Hey, I understand :). I was just wondering if there were plans at all to put something up. I guess I should have looked over that page a little more thoroughly first. I'll see what I can do regarding that image.

Armor
lol this is where you screwed up, not the subpages part.

(cur | prev) 15:37, 15 February 2012 Mathmagician (Talk | contribs) m (9,548 bytes) (moved Armors to Armor over redirect: Fixing bad page move)

You moved the page back over a redirect you should have gone into the history and done a undo on there edit. I have never really found a way to fix this, as it happened a number of times. So i just generally delete them now. Lmao your going to have fun deleting 5 pages of comments. btw don't feel bad i have done this before too. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 05:50, February 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not really sure how it works or why it does that, it should just keep changing the comments redirect location. But yeah thats the way wikia recommend you deal with page moves. If you want make some tests on fortesting. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:08, February 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Lol what a clown, uno if they took the time to source each page and add a link when they imported the pages there would be nothing wikia could do. One company has taken info from a number of wikis and made them into books. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 06:30, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

vandal
lol i can't believie i have to do this but, vandal thats removing content and adding in junk. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 11:06, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 16:38, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * He's blocked now.

Template
Hey i came up with a new template, i think we should consider converting over to it as it gives us easier control of the templates. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 15:33, February 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since you and some other were thinking about making some changes to the template layout its had me thinking, above is part of it but i think it would be far better if we add some switch functions to the infoboxs we have so we don't need any of these little templates. Reason is, sure you have noticed, any page with a template inside of a template can only be displayed in source mode and this way we can keep all the info in one place ie the infoboxs doc. I will work on an example. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 15:50, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 16:37, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I considered before that template inside of template probably causes that issue. Doesn't bother me personally since I always edit in source mode, but yes I can understand that most people don't. Can you explain a little bit how a switch statement can replace the functionality of those little templates? I haven't used a switch in wiki markup before. If it works like you're saying it does, and will completely replace the functionality of those templates used in infoboxes such as or  while switch itself is not a template (hence eliminating the template inside of infobox problem) and the code looks clean enough, then I'm completely for it. I'll wait for your example.


 * They work by having the smaller templates hard coded into the infobox template. Then you just use a command to get the right one and it displays it. Basically they work the same as what we have now, but users will need to add an exact command to get it to display correctly. I should have an example in the next 24 hours, i'm have a small amount of trouble getting the {{#switch to work in line with the {{#if parser function.

I'm going to be lazy and just say thanks here for dealing with the vandal, so thank you. Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 18:08, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yet Once Again Regarding A Matter
It seems Blanzer has let the Chat Mod & Rollback abilities go to his head. Swearing in chat, trolling the comment area in some pages, & overall being an annoyance. Please have this resolved soon. Koggeh


 * Hey Math i believe this is what Koggeh is referring to with the comments. Blanzer has also been quite rude to users in the past. I would suggest a warning as he is making up lies in those comments, and rumors can start so easily from them especially since he has more than basic user rights so people think he knows more about the game. Most people think we work hand in hand with the devs. Just a note, you have the ability to give/remove the chat mod status. <span id="User:Gracey91" class="plainlinks">Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 17:00, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Join in on a discussion? No thanks. I have a fairly simple stand on stuff like this: Everyone's video's should be allowed, provided theres no (sneak)advertising, rude content, degrading content, pornography etc included. The job of the admin/mod in charge of video's should be nothing more than judging if the videos uploaded are worthy material or not. Hell, people have blogs, have them upload their own videos there, and if they think its good enough for the site, have the mod in charge of it check it out to see if it adds anything useful. Thats my opinion and, stubborn as I am, I intend to stick to that opinion. Any other way would result in the mod being given too much power, or the regular posters being given too much power. Both dont work out. Anyway, I really didnt bother reading up on everything that happened. it just (pardon my french) annoys the sh*t out of me to see a lot of "anonymous" users posting their opinion on the situation when there's no incentive for it to BE posted to begin with. And I dont even visit the site that much, I cant imagine how annoying it must be for regular users. In any case I wish you all the best of luck with handling the situation. My apologies for the lack of a template or headlines, but I really suck at even basic html and coding. its all jibberish to me. Michelrpg 22:31, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Template:Doc
Hey i worked out a fix for the documentation template, i simply changed with. Notice the 2 E's. The second one gets it to add an underscore between any spaces it creates. Lol i told you it would just be something simple, it always is. <span id="User:Gracey91" class="plainlinks">Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 10:02, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 01:44, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice, glad that you found a nice fix =)

Vandalism by EpicMarshmallow on WoF Page
Hey, I saw that EpicMashmallow vandalized the WoF page. I edited it though. Just wanted to let you know.

Orion76 20:31, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 21:06, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for alerting me. EpicMarshmallow was actually just an intermediate editor, the true vandal turned out to be this IP: Special:Contributions/69.4.139.168. The page is temporarily locked to editing by IPs, and the vandalism has been fixed.

Right... So, I have got on to hard mode using this wiki for lots of help and i am having trouble killing bosses such as The Twins if you could say any tactics it would be great and I would appreciate it

--- Fadel12321

question. elisey.
possible that my ideas will find their place in the future? terraria. [http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Dr.elisey/the_fan-arts_bosses_and_ideas_to_diversify_game_is_a_little. the_fan-arts_bosses_and_ideas_to_diversify_game_is_a_little] Dr.elisey 19:32, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hi mathmagician thank you for the help i will try to be just like you a man that guides people. I know im new and i learnt a lot off you so thats why i just wanted to say thanks. (JM Jungle Man 09:21, February 23, 2012 (UTC)) JM Jungle Man.

Vandal!
http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:46.7.31.104 griefed Blinkroot. Koggeh

Hi. I recently added some photos. They are not related to terraria. I wanted to make a slideshow on my profile. I dont know any other way of adding photos. When it comes to computers I am a bit of a newbie so feel free to delete those photos. Really sorry for the truble :-( Kureanonym 15:33, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Mathagician i came here the ask if the pathogen can be a admin.I just sujested him beause he has a lot of rewards and he helped me just like you.I want to be a admin but im just not up to it.may be later from (JM Jungle Man 21:17, February 25, 2012 (UTC)) (:

Signatures
Hey Math!

We talked the other day and I wanted to ask you a question... How do I make/do one of those fancy signatures that the pathogen has or even a simple like Dyzlon's???

Thx a lot MathFuriion52 00:53, February 26, 2012 (UTC)Furiion52

Thanks a lot Math!!!Furiion52 02:08, February 27, 2012 (UTC)Furiion52

#switch Function in infoboxes
Hey there Math, I got both good and bad news. I managed to get the Rarity section switching fine on the ForTesting wiki, as you can see here and here. However, so far I've been unable to get the coin part in drops, selling or purchasing functioning correctly. If you have a suggestion, I'd be very glad to hear it. Just thought I'd let you know about my progress ^^

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 08:33, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I played around with it a little and then reverted to the way you had those pages. I'll try to explore some more possibilities and let you know if I find anything interesting. This will take a few days though.

admin nominations
Hello Math! I have been very sick recently and have missed out on the last couple days on this wiki. As you may know I an very interested in becoming an admin here in this wiki. However im still a little confuzed on how I get nominated. Does it have to be by another user? Do I add my nape to the nomination page and others provide thier opinion? Im very sorry for asking this. I feel I can contribute alot to this wiki and would make a great admin. Any info on this matter is appreciated thanks!

Dak47922 talk contrib count 23:32, February 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your Info! Before I got your message I Kinda acidentaly self nominated


 * (my friend was actually posting that but he didnt realize it was loged on to my account. please dont take this as suspicious or any thing. It was my fault and ill take responsibility for that.)


 * Now That I understand the method of this system I rollbacked "my" edit and apologized on the talk page. Im very very sorry about that.


 * Again thanks for your response,


 * Dak47922 talk contrib count 00:50, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

re
Ok to be clear Path brought up the past not me. I was just trying to clear up some things i felt may be of issue, i honestly expected to support him in the end and at which point i would add why they are good, but they choose to bringing this crap up. There is no way on gods green earth i'm going to support an admin that thinks they can just bring this up when ever they want. He needs to be able to move on. I have i just have to hear about it constantly.

About the comments section i don't like how you removed it to the talk page since RfR have comments sections so people can add comments. Removing that section to hide it on a talk page most people don't know exists defeats the point. You can't add anything without either a support/neutral/oppose, if its not on that page most wont know its there. And even if people do your forced to read between 2 different pages just to know whats happening. To be clear, i don't like how you removed the comments section, i understand you moving my comments. The reason i want reason is its not hard to do and why should we count votes from someone who can't even say "per above". I know you want maxium particapation but i just think many of the people don't know enough or spend enough time here to have an idea on who is good, its also a function of the RfR process which i thought this was based on? <span id="User:Gracey91" class="plainlinks">Gracey91 (talk • contribs • count) 13:12, February 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Comments: I understand your concern now, thanks for clarifying. I was thinking that a comments section wasn't a huge deal because people would just use the neutral section for that purpose. I have added a comments section back onto the nomination page--to be used for asking questions or making comments about the particular nomination. If there are comments on the talk page that need to be moved to the nomination, that is certainly something that can/should happen. I think most of the communication on the talk page is where it belongs, but I can certainly see your point in that parts of it may be out of place.


 * Reason + Signature. I think we understand each other's position and we'll have to agree to disagree here.

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 19:11, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course, please feel free to contribute to other nominations, as well as continue to discuss Pathogen's nomination, even if you will not be changing your vote. I know I'm repeating myself (and I'm sorry if I'm being irritating), but please take into consideration my point about offering a balance of praise and criticism. Not one first and then the other later: both at the same time.

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 00:18, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Edit:I have proposed a way to keep your conversation with Pathogen in order here: User:Mathmagician/sandbox. 1) Have I placed your conversation in the proper order? 2) Do you agree to the placing that thread in the comments section under Pathogen's nomination?

Continued Adminship
Hello. I was wondering If you would still be an admin or are we starting with a compleatly new set of admins? I personally think that this would be a bad idea. I think you should stay as an admin to guide the "newbies".

Let me know beacuse I would gladly nominat you as an admin if its needed.

Dak47922 talk contrib count 18:57, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 19:15, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that current admins will be staying. If removal of admin rights for some current admins is needed (for inactivity etc.), that will be discussed at a later time. If I am wrong about this, Sannse will clarify.
 * Yes, other than the changes that have already happened, I'm fine with the current admins staying in place :) -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 02:58, February 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * What of the inactive admins?
 * I've been an inactive admin on Wikipedia for 6 years now ;) so I don't tend to see a strong reason to remove people for inactivity. But either way, I think that's something the community can decide on in the future - no need to change anything now -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  03:23, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Contact details
By the way, I've been keeping conversations to the wiki since early on in my involvement here - but my Skype chat is still available to you if needed, and I'm often on Community Central chat too. If there's anything you need to talk over in real-time, or any support you need, let me know -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 03:26, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Blog error
"Notification details. This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please contact an administrator, and inform them of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Common Vandalism Phrases 1 All contributions to Terraria Wiki are considered to be released under the CC-BY-SA (see Wikia:Licensing for deta"

A message I got when I wanted to make a blog. My own blog even, which has no posts in it. I type some stuff up (nothing that has cussing in it, only one thing is a swearword and its censored). And then I get that notification :/. Any idea what I am doing wrong here?Michelrpg 05:33, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

hi

re: notifcation
Problem being that I got the same notification when I removed that one swearword. So either I completely overlook my language somewhere, or it recognises a word as a swearword while it isnt. I'll try updating it later again to see how it goes. Michelrpg 18:48, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

-edit- well now it seems to work. very strange that it wouldnt work yesterday. Anyway, sorry to have bothered you.

Monthly poll suggestion
Hey math! I noticed that Its been about a month since we posted a poll. I have a suggestion for our next one:

In what version did you start playing Terraria? 1.1.2 1.1.1 1.1 1.0.6.1 1.0.6 1.0.5 1.0.4 1.0.3 1.0.2 1.0.1 1.0.0

By the way thanks for your supporting comment on the admin nomination page!

Dak47922 talk contrib count 16:06, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal
http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:209.51.228.3

Koggeh

Hey Math, first of all I love Fate/Stay Night and especially Rin. I had a question I just answered it through experimentation. Anyway just wanted to say hi to a fellow Rin lover.Lordgiza 06:43, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal Report
Hey there Math, just reporting the latest vandal ^^

Wiki Banner
Well, I finished the first revision of the wiki banner, but I don't think it turned out all that well.. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated on it, lol. Where it can be improved, depth added, details changed and the like. ^^ If need be, I can write up an imagemap similar to the previous one, it's what I was thinking when I added the corner images (In reference to Crafting, Items, NPCs and Monsters - going from top-left to bottom-left then top-right to bottom right)

http://i43.tinypic.com/2monk44.png