Talk:Golden Shower

Defense/Damage?
Anyone know how much defense this drops? From what I've seen, it's somewhere from 10 to 20 defense, since I've seen it deal 5-10 more damage from the second hit onwards.

Trivia Slang
Sex Act: I'm not exactly sure that the description for the golden shower being a sex act should be publicly stated, although a true piece of trivia, and most likely correct, It's somewhat inappropriate for some audiences to read outright (aka the children). I think it's safe to say that most people will know what a Golden Shower is, and it does not need to be explained for the naive.
 * I think information should not be withheld, however. It could be written down on a more euphemic way, so as not to be too vulgar. Also, I think the existing trivia about Ichor should be moved to the Ichor page.
 * Done, and done. The trivia about Ichor has been moved to the Ichor page, and the Golden Shower's trivia has been rewritten to be a little less blunt.
 * It's called the Golden Rain. Golden Shower is a book in this game, all right, dude.
 * Such a fake trivia makes players like me get more disgusted of Terraria, which is not the point of Wiki at all. Also, it is not proven until devs say they did it in purpose, which you need to have ref for.
 * This section is over 3 years old. Please see the discussion under . – Ferretwings  (talk ) 14:33, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Highest DPS?
Is the "Highest DPS" part an old addition? Weapons like the Blizzard Staff, Razorpine and Bubble Gun have long outclassed this weapon. Should it be removed as it is now outdated, even with the Ichor effect?
 * well, the golden shower is a high dos weapon for its teer so you should leave i in.

Team Fortress trivia
Regarding this edit currently being fought over: Trivia like this tends to be removed since there's no evidence that one necessarily came from the other. This isn't so original as to warrant assuming one must have gotten the idea from the other. I would say both Terraria and Team Fortress are referencing the age-old concept of throwing pee on one's enemies. You could say Team Fortress is merely another game that features a pee weapon, but to say that one references the other is just not something we can really back up.

...and here are more: this, this, this, this.  Equazcion ( talk ) 12:21, 8 Sep 2014 (UTC)
 * But unlike all the other times, where peeing is a taunt, Golden Showers and Jarate both cause a debuff, where the afflicted opponent takes more damage from other weapons. Personally, I think it's specific enough to warrant a trivia mention. FyreNWater (talk) 19:51, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Jarate is a bomb pretty much, and is thrown once, and isnt a stream at all, also the Golden Shower isnt the only thing that inflicts Ichor, theres also the Flask of Ichor, Ichor Bullet and Ichor Arrow. Would you say those are a refrence to it? Also I doubt that Redigit would look at TF2, see the jarate and say, "You know what would be the same?, the blood of gods.", also Ichor is a defence reducing debuff, its not necessarilly more damage, it just makes the enemy loose defence. Whereas Jarate makes enemies always take mini-crits. Now if Ichor weapons made you more likely to critical hit targets then I would see a refrence., but it does not. WelchDrew (talk) 19:56, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Then a trivia mention of Jarate in the Ichor page, maybe/maybe not on individual ichor weapons. Good? FyreNWater (talk) 19:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Without the "could be a reference" part, in my opinion. Maybe just say there's a similar weapon in TF2.  Equazcion ( talk ) 23:30, 11 Sep 2014 (UTC)

Since this goofy little debate seems to be experiencing a flareup lately, I'll put forth the case that the trivia note regarding the "potential reference" is totally unnecessary. Historically, ichor is a golden liquid, which eventually came to be known as an unpleasant fluid associated with disease and infection. Only the Golden Shower's name references its similarity to piss, and it does so in a manner entirely dissimilar to throwing a jar of old urine. You could just as easily say that a Molotov Cocktail is a reference, seeing as it's actually a jar of yellow fluid (specifically the Ale used to craft it) thrown as an unconventional weapon to inflict a debuff with a fixed duration. Master Bait and Mourning Wood are proof that TF2 hardly has a monopoly on juvenile bodily humor, and considering that Mario and Link's clothes are in the game and all but outright stated to be items from other franchises, I think that a reference would be much more obvious. People are trying far too hard to speculate on connections that are normally just laid out for them. 98.196.175.207 15:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Damn, I added this in for a bit of fun months ago, only to see it now caused such a massive controversy, like I fucking murdered someone and it needs to be covered up. What the hell is wrong with you children? Seriously, I am in disbelief. Grow the hell up and let trivia be just that, trivia. If you're going to be that fucking serious over a playful little detail, then just bloody remove trivia altogether. Very disappointed with the idiots that "run" this. Shape up. (Anonymous, 22:27, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If it were just you and this one edit, it's likely nobody would've cared. The problem is, if we left in all these little items people added just for fun, most articles would be double the size. That's why this has become an issue -- not really your particular edit alone, but the general attempt to develop and somewhat enforce a standard for deciding which trivia items stay and which get removed.  Equazcion ( talk ) 06:37, 10 Nov 2014 (UTC)

Trivia regarding the Golden Shower slang term
I have temporarily protected the Golden Shower page. This edit war cannot continue. Please discuss your gripes on this page, and please keep it civil. The wording on the main page was chosen carefully, and to (hopefully) prevent other editors from adding similar (and possibly more vulgar) "facts" or innuendos. Entirely removing the slang reference isn't a solution, because another editor will come along and mention the slang term once again (and again and again). If you feel it needs a re-write, place your suggested re-write on this Talk page. Can the trivia be made better? Perhaps? Let's hear your suggestion. – Ferretwings (talk ) 18:39, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I was gonna write a big long thing in addendum, but instead I'll just clarify for future editors, both in this discussion and into perpetuity- Terraria is steeped in crass toilet humor by design. It's not the wiki's place to sanitize the game's content, nor does it actually achieve anything to omit that information. Gearzein (talk) 20:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could add a slightly different type of trivia? LordofEditing (talk) 21:07, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I do believe that that trivia adds nothing at all, and shouldn't be there, in any case, golden shower can be taiken in a naive way for the gold materials that lurk around the game, so talking about peeing isn't really that useful, yeah, we COULD place all the pubic references that the in game items and monsters refer to, but, what would that do for the wiki? Frenchiveruti (talk) 21:42, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * if i got this right this will be slightly more to the right but i didnt realise that it was a slang term and havent even thought of it so it allows you to learn some things while also keeping the learning fun... either that or youd get bored trying to figure it out and youd stop reading the wiki so making it funny would be best but not too often and also small innuendos imo would be another way to do this too though atleast i dont think the edit war here was racist.... as someone livestreames the wikihow guessing game people starting screwing up the wikihows and temporarily banned some pages from viewing unless you were logged in.... and also its true edit wars would happen alot if the things like that were removed.... so itd imo be best too
 * Guestds (talk) 11:24, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I would also like to add my vote for omission. The article (/wiki) gains nothing from it's inclusion (people either already know what it may mean or not).  To say the game is "steeped in crass toilet humor" is clearly incorrect. Play the game for 10hrs and you will see only relatively mild innuendo, which will go straight over the heads of the younger players due to the lack of explanation.  Furthermore, no-one is asking to "sanitise" the game - the game is the game, what perhaps people are asking for is that the supporting material be left at the level of the game, and not go to the next (i.e. no-one is asking for the removal of the item/term from the wiki, but rather let's not have a graphic description of what the term might mean - which is clearly far more detail than the game itself presents).

Piercing 5 enemies?
I used the golden shower and on the article it sais "pierces up to 5 enemies, but when I used it, the stream pierced way over 5 Dumbpoopface444 (talk) 16:33, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * You are right, I removed it. Thanks for pointing out! --Rye Greenwood (talk) 14:38, 24 February 2019 (UTC)