User talk:Ejraiel

Nice work on Wings. I was planning something similar. Thanks :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 05:52, 17 Feb 2014 (UTC)

 PST  Ejraiel :

 *smile* Thank you.

 I'd like to tackle the Accessories page next.

 In addition to cleanup of general organization; I was also thinking of making a flow chart, (on a separate page, perhaps,) using only item pictures; showing what items are combined from what, and which are better in their own ways, simply by where they are on the grid.

 Any thoughts? =]


 * Wikis don't do actual flow charts all that well (if at all), but you could probably manage something similar in table form. I think it would be nice. I had to jump around a tangle of spaghetti to figure out which items I'd need first in order to Tinker whatever's next. First column would be the basic stuff you would find first, and the last column would be the top-tier stuff? I think.  Equazcion ( talk ) 22:34, 20 Feb 2014 (UTC)


 * I started User:Equazcion/Sandbox to try out one method. Looks pretty useful.  Equazcion ( talk ) 07:46, 21 Feb 2014 (UTC)

 PST  Ejraiel :

 Yeah, I was thinking a table myself, if there was nothing better in wikis. And I like your sandbox example a lot, however, there is a problem that makes things more complicated than simply levels of items towards one individual item. And, if possible, I'd like to put them together on one table. Perhaps what this really calls for is an image, like this. Though I would truly prefer a table or other text based medium that is both a nice gridlike visual and is easy to update.

 The problem of course is divergent branches of upgrades. Such as Cloud/Sandstorm/Blizzard in a Bottle + Shiny Red Balloon --> Cl/Sa/Bl in a Balloon, then those three balloons together making Bundle of Balloons, yet also individually making Blue/Yellow/White Horseshoe Balloon. Not to mention that the Cloud in a Bottle also separately may be combined with a Whoopie Cushion to make a Fart in a Jar, which like the other X in a Bottle can be combined with the Shiny Red Balloon to make X in a Balloon.

 So I was thinking of combining cell edge widths and colors, cell background colors, and text symbols (+, =, -->, }, etc.) "and/or" visual symbols (like the red cross used in the height comparison table in the Wings page) to show flow / combination.

 Is there a list of files or these type of icons available on this wiki? In the meantime, I'll look up other examples and resources available in general places, like Wikipedia.


 * I tried background colors and borders here: (see upper-left), but I had trouble striking a balance that was visible and subtle enough (actual table border colors don't seem feasible to me but I could be wrong). I don't think there's a list of general icons available, you'd need to use the search line. You could upload stuff you grab from commons.wikimedia.org too. Doing this using just a big image would be cheating :) or at least a last resort. It should be something the crowd can update.


 * My sandbox is far from ideal but it could be better than nothing. Ideally I'd like item quantities and a clear visual of which items craft which results, and it would be nice to not have to repeat items in different places. Feel free to mock something up if you have an idea -- you can use User:Ejraiel/Sandbox.  Equazcion ( talk ) 21:13, 21 Feb 2014 (UTC)