Talk:Swords

Suggest that Swords redirect to Melee Weapons. Content describing different attack styles could be copied over. Vissith 18:33, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Only on rare occasions, I say no. I say no to this merge. There is a page for Hammers, Pickaxes, and Axes, swords are another type of those. Melee weapons include Staff of Regrowth and demonite items. We can put "See also Melee Weapons". But to be consistent this page needs to be named Swords. N u l l ( T - C ) 05:02, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't make sense to merge, while swords are melee weapons, not all melee weapons are swords. They deserve their own category/page.

Staff of regrowth
I say it isn't a sword. You could say it acts like an axe, if you're going there. Just add it to Melee Weapons and remove it from this classification. --JonTheMon 16:01, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It isn't a tool since it can't dismantle world tiles, and it isn't a spear since it doesn't jab. It does cause damage to enemies via an overhead swing.How exactly is it not a broadsword, other than in its name?  Equazcion  ( talk ) 16:21, 18 Aug 2011 (UTC)
 * If they added a spiked club that swings overhead and doesn't dismantle world tiles, would that also be a sword? And I don't know of any swords that have a non-damage ability. --JonTheMon 16:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If they did that they'd probably add other similar items and we'd have another subcategory under melee for them. All the melee weapons fall under some other subcategory: tool, spear, shortsword, broadsword. Granted it's unique in that it has a non-attack function, but listings here are generally inclusive rather than exclusive; just because an item appears in one list doesn't mean it can't serve extra functions. One of the functions this one does serve, though, fits the broadsword description.  Equazcion ( talk ) 16:32, 18 Aug 2011 (UTC)
 * Since when are listings so inclusive that you add something that doesn't make sense? It swings and does damage. Why not make a new classification for it? --JonTheMon 16:45, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it swings, does damage to enemies, but does not dismantle world tiles. Such items are called broadswords, at least here; the Muaramasa and several others are not named so in the game, and some aren't even called swords. You could classify weapons based on their names and graphics, and end up with some significant changes to this wiki; but if you're going by function, this is a broadsword as much as any other is. Aside from its name and graphics, you've offered no real reason to exclude it here.  Equazcion ( talk ) 16:48, 18 Aug 2011 (UTC)
 * So the fact that it says it's a "Staff" doesn't matter? Anyhow, this isn't going anywhere w/o someone else commenting. --JonTheMon 16:54, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah that would be the "name" argument again. But yes let's see if anyone else has something to say.  Equazcion ( talk ) 16:55, 18 Aug 2011 (UTC)
 * I know we're waiting for outside input, but I wanted to point out one relevant example with the same issue: the Space Gun. It's a gun in appearance and name (ALSO listed under Guns, and I would have no problem with the Staff being listed somewhere else in addition), but is still included under Magic Weapons purely due to the way it functions: it consumes Mana rather than ammunition. Nothing in its superficial characteristics (name, appearance) point to it being a magic weapon, just as nothing superficial about the Staff of Regrowth points to it being a Broadsword. But since information purposes are best served here by classifying based on functionality, it's included under Magic Weapons.  Equazcion ( talk ) 18:14, 18 Aug 2011 (UTC)

So I'm the tie breaker here or whatever? Well, I'm going to go with "unique melee weapon, not a sword", since it's called a staff and I don't see no blade. If it quacks like a duck, but doesn't look like one, then it probably isn't a duck. Sword, I mean. --Lunboks 18:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)