User talk:Gearzein

Hey -- thanks for all your work here lately! One thing though, you tend to be a little harsh in your edit summaries when reverting edits. I get a little sarcastic myself sometimes, but it's best to reserve that for blatant and intentional vandalism. When someone makes an edit they think is helpful, please remain kind, even if the edit seemed "stupid". Thanks :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 02:12, 16 Nov 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't figure anybody actually read those... I'll try to keep them less abrasive in the future. --Gearzein (talk) 03:53, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Any Recent Changes dwellers like myself most definitely read them. ;) Chrisf1020 (talk) 01:56, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Could you show me an example of where I use Fuddlercrafter (talk) 06:09, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Overlinking
The overlinking thing is subjective enough to warrant some leniency. On Wikipedia, for example, it's not considered overlinking to include the same link within an infobox, a template in the article body, and then another within the article text. Also when duplicate links are separated by a couple of sections and/or screen lengths. When it would probably help readers to not have to scroll back to find the first mention of a term, a bit of duplicate linking isn't a bad thing. It just becomes a problem when it's overdone, ie. several duplicate links close to each other, that don't help and only distract.  Equazcion ( talk ) 11:34, 25 Nov 2014 (UTC)
 * My bad. Assuming we're both referring to the same incident, I may have been overreacting. Even so, that particular editor's past edits were mostly just adding links to as many words in an article as they could. I left a note on their talk page and received what I thought to be a rather backhanded response, so between a perceived intention to troll and their almost machinelike pattern of adding brackets to words in random articles without making sure they linked properly, I started to view their edits as vandalism. In retrospect, I assumed bad faith, which is of course not a great way to approach a situation, but diplomacy had failed so I just hit undo a bunch and called it a night. --Gearzein (talk) 20:00, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I missed his response to you. Those profile page comments they don't come up anywhere. :) Anyway, yeah that response didn't look promising, I agree. Still it's good to continue examining edits on their merits and keeping the ones that might make sense, regardless of who made them. A generally unhelpful person can sometimes end up making an edit that benefits the page, like this one for instance, which I thought was pretty decent. There's also always the possibility that the person actually is a good-faith editor who's just learning and improving, hopefully :)  Equazcion ( talk ) 20:27, 25 Nov 2014 (UTC)

Revert question
Dear Gearzein I am new here I noticed you changed my post and I have a picture to confirm that it is true can I send it to you some how? Thanks. Sincerely: Fuddlercrafter
 * Even if you have verifiable picture proof, the current wiki policy is that bugs are no longer to be posted here, but submitted to the forums, specifically the bug report subforums. There's a notice indicating this at the top of every page once you click "edit". That's why I removed that change- submitting a bug here won't help it get fixed, because the developers don't read this wiki. It's largely an encyclopedic compendium of material they created, so they have no reason to come here and look things up. We don't have the means at this wiki to track and verify bugs in most cases, so we're sending people to the bug support forums from here on out. I should've left a notice in the edit summary. Gearzein (talk) 05:50, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Strategy guide links
Noticed your edit summaries. In case you were looking for input, I think moving the boss/event strategy guide links down to the tips section is a good idea (without leaving duplicate notices at the top of the articles).  Equazcion ( talk ) 18:33, 20 Dec 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool, I'll get on it. I'm gonna be going through most of the boss articles and cleaning up the guide stuff, so feel free to check my work if I'm deleting too much. Gearzein (talk) 18:48, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Will do. One little thing: Using main implies that the tips section is meant to summarize the strategy guide, ie. "here are some strategies, if you want more of them go to this main page".


 * I think your intent, in cutting down the tips sections, is to actually avoid that, and draw a distinction between boss-beating-strategies, which you'd like to keep at the guide, from other types of pointers, which you're keeping on the boss page. Let me know if I've got that wrong. If you use main, I think there's more chance that the same sort of boss strategies will continue to be posted in both places.  Equazcion ( talk ) 19:17, 20 Dec 2014 (UTC)
 * Right. I wish I had seen this sooner, as I just finished and don't currently have the time to fix it. The intent was a little murkier than that honestly (general tips on main, but keep individual weapon lists, arena layouts etc. to strat page) but that's about right and probably a better approach. I probably should have just put the previous disambig lower on the page instead of replacing it. I'll be able to set it straight later tonight. That's what I get for editing in a hurry, I suppose. Gearzein (talk) 19:34, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually I think your distinction is good -- general tidbits on boss page, elaborate ones in the guide. If you're planning to switch back from the main template I'll probably go around and do that, if you don't get to it first.  Equazcion ( talk ) 19:51, 20 Dec 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll probably leave them as-is, since the new template looks pretty good. It could probably get a bit of extra use on event pages as a link to their respective guides, since many of those are pretty bloated tips-wise too. I'll probably clean those up later on as well. Gearzein (talk) 21:30, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the Turtle Armour revert:
How is it highly subjective? If anything, the information currently featured in the article is blatant misinformation.

Objective points:
 * Turtle Armour is available pre-Plantera, thus dispelling its status as "one of the four hardmode end-game armor sets" if Chlorophyte does not apply for that category)
 * Turtle Armour's stats are mostly not even as good as even Chlorophyte Armour + Mask. This isn't opinion, this is fact. The one single stat that actually is better is Defence, and even then only just barely.
 * Turtle Armour does not in any way, shape or form compare to Beetle, Spectre, or Shroomite, the true endgame armours, which are stronger by leaps and bounds in nearly every area.
 * Turtle Armour emphasizes a tank role, a role that is pointless to take outside of multiplayer since you are the only one drawing aggro anyhow in single player. That extra 5 damage negation isn't going to do anyone enough favours to be worth picking up over the raw killing power of Chlorophyte armour.

It is a non-endgame, Chlorophyte-tier, multiplayer-focused armour. This is not subjective. It is fact. Please leave the article be.

Ardhanarishvara (talk) 22:25, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Delinking merged pages
Your comment here reminded me about something I'd been putting off for a while. Wanted to tell you I just managed to add a parameter to crafts row to optionally un-link crafting results, so merged pages won't have to list links to themselves anymore. You can add after the result parameter in order to un-link a result (example). I went through most of the merged furniture listings already, but in case you see more pages where this is still an issue, now you can fix them if you like. Thanks for bringing it up :) Equazcion  ( talk ) 15:03, 4 Jan 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow, good job. That had been bothering me for a while, but I was thinking I'd have to scrape together a whole second unlinkedcrafts template or something because crafts was so widely used. This is a much cleaner solution. Gearzein (talk) 20:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)