Talk:Zenith

When i was editing this mentioning 3 swords per swing, it seems to be based on speed accessories. While testing, it seems weapon modifier doesn't impact this, but some accessories did. Actual tests and results are as follows: I used solar flare leggings, celestial shell (at night) and mechanical glove, and Legendary and sluggish zenith in Journey mode. 2 swords appear when using all those items. Remove any one of the equipment items, and 3 swords are thrown. The modifier on the weapon had no effect on the number of swords. when testing with unmodified zenith and no accessories or armor equipped, still produced 3 swords. It seems weapon speed modifiers impact use time and throwing rate, but accessories only can impact use time. The weapon constantly throws swords for the duration of its attack, only throwing the non-homing zenith sword at the start of a new attack. --49.195.100.48 10:51, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I can confirm this is true. A melee speed over +36 % results in two swords released only, however my testing shows that number of hits per second does not change. I've reported this bug. - Rainbowhawk555 (talk) 04:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposal
The Notes section should also consider the possibility of none of the Enchanted Sword Shrines in a world being real. 151.225.52.44 15:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

The Enchanted sword can be obtained from the golden crate and titanium crate. I've added a note to the enchanted sword page - Rainbowhawk555 (talk) 04:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

The Notes section should probably mention that on Journey mode it can be more fiddly due to the fact that characters start with iron gear. If the world spawns with tin, obtaining copper, while possible, can take some time - 124.45.76.97 04:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Enchanted Sword Link
The link of the Enchanted Sword in the recipe currently goes to the disambiguation page Enchanted Sword, when it should link to the item page Enchanted Sword (item). This issue seems to reside deep somewhere in Template:Recipes, and I have no idea how to approach this. Zakru (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC).

I have rectified this issue - Rainbowhawk555 (talk) 00:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Notes on Zenith

 * 1) It does not seem to have a range limit. My resolution is 1920x1080 and it can still reach enemies - even ones horizontally offscreen at maximum zoomout.
 * 2) The swords released still follow your cursor even after you release the button assigned to using it before they return to being sheathed.  24.217.132.248 05:00, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

How am I supposed to fix the infobox?
Someone made it a food and a kite, in addition to a weapon, when it’s clearly not either. The problem is trying to dig into the info box. How am I supposed to edit the box itself? Devintrainer (talk) 17:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Cave Story/Copper Sword
I was playing a side scrolling game, two years or so back where you started with terrible weapon. But if you held onto it, eventually you could upgrade it into being one of, if not the best in the game.. like the Polar Star in Cave Story

Anyone have any other examples?

Sebine (talk) 15:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Article cleanup
This article has amassed a good deal of mostly-useless factoids and unsourced claims in the Notes and Trivia sections. Considering this is probably one of our most-visited pages, would it be advisable to take a red pen and trim down these sections to the factual and essentials? Breathlessblizzard (talk) 11:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I would be willing to assist with this. I could copy it into the wiki sandbox and try to clean up the page, as it's protected against anonymous users (for good reason). --172.58.158.153 11:32, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I am already working on this page due to discussions in the Discord, your help is appreciated but it would probably be prudent to check back in 20min or so because I have cut a lot. Breathlessblizzard (talk) 12:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Extra Swords
Both the Star Wrath and the Arkhalis can appear during the animation, albeit significantly more rarely than others. --172.58.155.197 16:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The Terragrim might be there, but it's hard to tell which one. --172.58.155.197 16:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Correction: the Starfury can appear despite not being used to craft it. Also, somebody changed the page to say that you should aim past the enemy to get maximum DPS, but if you aim past the enemy you might not even hit it once. This info should be changed and the extra swords should be mentioned in the Trivia section. --172.58.155.197 16:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The Starfury is used to craft it, but the Terragrim definitely appears in the animation. --172.58.155.245 21:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Can somebody please add this? People keep adding/removing that the Arkhalis appears (it doesn't, as far as i know) but the Terragrim definitely does appear in the animation. --172.58.4.114 15:01, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Zenith Damage
Zenith does not do 190 damage. It does 204. I don't know how to change item infoboxes so if someone else could, that would be nice.