Terraria Wiki:Admin noticeboard/Issues-2015

Categorized userpages
By the looks of things, there are a handful of base pages in the User: namespace which include templates like history, item infobox, npc infobox, and pc only. While this is probably alright in theory, its effect in practice is to cause the automatic categorization associated with said templates to be applied to user pages, which is probably something which should be avoided. This can be fixed in one of a few ways:
 * 1) Substitute the templates on the userpages which make use of them, then individually remove the categorization,
 * 2) add the same #ifexist #ifeq parser which appears at the bottom of the item and NPC infobox templates to the rest of the templates which make use of automatic categorization, or
 * 3) fully remove these templates from and prevent them from being used on userpages.

I would do this myself, but I would assume that the recent update to the abuse filter (based on [ these messages] ) precludes the first and last possibilities, while the second involves editing several fully protected templates (which can only be done by admins). Oscuritaforze (talk) 01:17, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It does appear that several users are being categorized like this. That filter should only be preventing anons from editing userpages though, so ordinary users should still have access for reasons like this. Even so it'd probably be easiest and least tedious to just prevent the templates from categorizing pages they're attached to outside of the main namespace. Gearzein (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've gone through the listed templates and made appropriate changes so they'll only autocategorize pages in main. If any other templates are found to have this behavior, let us know. Gearzein (talk) 02:09, 8 March 2015 (UTC)


 * (Edit conflict) Ah, alright. I don't actually have the ability to look at the abuse filter change I linked, but considering how lax the autoconfirmation requirements are here, I figured that it would make sense if it was preventing all users (except possibly admins) from editing other users' userpages.


 * And will do. For future reference, is this page actually the preferred place to report such issues? Oscuritaforze (talk) 02:13, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if there's ever a technical issue or anything, report it here and one of the sysops will get on it. There hasn't really been any discussion on changing autoconfirm rules though- most hard vandals are driveby IPs who won't even bother to edit twice if the filter catches them, so there's little point in restricting registered users. Gearzein (talk) 02:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Image Uploading
I'm attempting to create a new wiki page for the Terraria Animated Series done by Element Animation. I'm getting this error, "This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed."
 * This image has probably been flagged becuase it's been deleted previously. Please refer to your talk page. Gearzein (talk) 18:25, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Problems with Templates
Hello everybody, I'm an editor of the German Terraria Wiki (although I also edit the English version if I see something that needs editing) and I've noticed the severe incompatability of the templates with languages other than english. For example, the npc infobox template is translated into npc infobox/de, but does not accept names of items in other languages (e.g. entering "Shackle" makes both the .png file and link appear, but entering "Armband" (German for shackle) causes the template to not find the image and create a link called "Armband", which should never exist on this wiki (it should be Shackle/de, as you most probably know). If I try to seperate link and dispaled name via the usual method (Shackle/de|Armband), then the template tries to find Shackle/de.png and uses "Armband" as the item count! it also tears apart the rest of the items that way, so everything is pushed back a slot. For example, Shackle.png|1|2% and (in the next line) Zombie Banner|1|0.5% turns into Shackle/de.png|Armband|1 and (in the next line) 2%|Zombie Banner|1. Could you try to fix that somehow? My example link is Zombie/de.
 * However, the problem that is even worse is the crafting template! This template only exists in english, making translating pointless in the first place. See Platform/de.
 * The item template works well though, probably because it doesn't use drops, although the translation is a bit oddly worded and has some spelling errors. Please help me with this! Terrariapc1 (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I don't think the wiki is set up to handle item names in languages other than English before those language wikis actually exist separately. From what I can gather, during the initial "translation project" that foreign languages are put through here, items need to retain their original English names, due to the problem you're describing. Once a language is actually split off into a separate bona fide wiki (which normally happens when enough pages are translated and at least one potential admin is determined to be available), those technical limitations won't be an issue, and item translations can happen freely. Equazcion  ( talk ) 04:21, 6 Apr 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see where this is going. Just translate as many pages as possible. Thanks! Terrariapc1 (talk) 05:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC

Random Article Issue
Hey, guys, I'm a new English editor and a longtime Terraria player. I do frequently read the wiki, and occasionally (not all the time) clicking the random page button will direct the user an article in another language. I'm not sure if there's a way to fix this, and I'm guessing that this issue is with the source code, not the Terraria wiki alone. I have experienced Dutch, Czech, and Russian so far.
 * I've noticed that issue. Foreign language versions of Terraria Wiki start out as subpages at the English wiki, so while they are still in progress (which they can be for a long time), the "random" link will often bring you to one of those. There are some options to fix that through the wiki's back-end code, and I've been considering contacting Curse/Gamepedia about implementing something. I'll put a request together and see what can be done. Equazcion  ( talk ) 23:56, 7 Apr 2015 (UTC)
 * I found a MediaWiki extension that would address this, and put in a request with Curse to have it installed. It seems to require an update to MediaWiki though. They plan to deploy that next Wednesday, April 15th. Presumably it'll start working at that time, if all goes well. I'll post any updates I receive. Equazcion  ( talk ) 06:40, 10 Apr 2015 (UTC)

Curse rights for bureaucrat (merged from Curse noticeboard)
Hello, I am one of the two active bureaucrats of Russian Terraria Wiki. I wanted to know, can I appoint a Curse rights to me (I know it is possible at special page)? If not, where can I send a request to it. I need this right for the following functions: deleterevision, suppressrevision, mergehistory, hideuser, editprotected. Alex Great talk 09:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I know only people that work at Curse receive those user rights. --0icke0 (talk) 18:17, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This question is already resolved. It can be archived. ← Alex Great talk 03:26, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

"usermerge" right (merged from Curse noticeboard)
I can't find this right (at Russian Wiki). Where it is? At Special:UserGroupRights it exist for bureaucrats and Curse. But it doesn't shown at Special:SpecialPages. When I follow to Special:UserMerge this show me that this special page doesn't exist. Alex Great talk 09:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure if anyone pays attention to this page anymore. It's been sitting here for 4 years untouched (nearly) and I wasn't even aware it existed. I'd advise emailing wiki@curse.com instead. Equazcion  ( talk ) 10:04, 13 Jun 2015 (UTC)
 * On this wiki somebody had to rename an account? For example I need to rename user account of my bot. I mistaken and registered it on wrong mail. Alex Great talk 05:16, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * All right. I have solved this problem by myself. I do not need to merge accounts. Thanks for answer. Alex Great talk 05:39, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

↑ To archive. ← Alex Great talk 03:26, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Can't make Angry Bones/nl
hello everyone, i have trouble making the page Angry bones/nl, which is ment as part of the dutch translation project. when i click publish i get i notice saying the following:

"Warning! You are attempting to create a page for an item that currently exists, but has had a Modifier applied in your game. This page would be redundant, as it already exists here, and so its creation has been prevented. You can find the page for this item by removing only the first word of its name and searching for the item (e.g. Warding Platinum Watch would be found on the Platinum Watch page)"

this is incorrect as angry bones is an enemy type. so wat should i do? ill just keep the text with me for now. User: Superstrijder15
 * I've gone ahead and made the page: Angry Bones/nl. Since "Angry" is also a modifier, it was causing that issue. Hopefully this problem doesn't come up too often in the future. --KM100 (talk) 13:36, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

thank you KM100, i filled the page with the content i had made already, so now its about finished! User:Superstrijder15

Wood types
I guess this is a somewhat unfortunate time for this discussion, with the 1.3 release right around the corner, but as it may save time later I figured I post it now. In the current crafting row template we make an exception in case an item can use both Iron and Lead bars. Although something similar is the case for Sand (any type can be used) and Pressure Plates (any color can be used) it is not really needed there, as it only affects one item. However for Wood there are many recipes in which any type of wood can be used. I have been away for quite some time, so I don't know if there is a reason an exception has been made for Iron/Load Bars and not for Wood, but if we are gonna make an exception for wood it would be good to decide this before 1.3 release, so I can update my data extraction tool accordingly. That way we don't have to change it for the new pages afterwards. (On a side note, I won't be able to extract data till some hours after release, as I'm busy around release time.) --0icke0 (talk) 09:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * First of all, I'm glad you're here now to help with the volume of new pages :) and welcome back! I added the "lead/iron" option in the crafts template because we already had many pages where duplicate recipes were listed separately. I wanted to combine them and save space. I think the original reason both were listed was because of availability -- the original wood is available to everyone, whereas not everyone will see iron in their world. For those who might not know to look for the alternate, we list a recipe for what they would be seeing instead. Although I don't think it's quite as pressing of an issue, I'd be alright with doing some combination for wood if you want, and if it's space-efficient. Equazcion  ( talk ) 09:27, 30 Jun 2015 (UTC)
 * If that is the reason I don't think it is necessary. I'll add to the normal wood page which items can be crafted with any wood and which ones require normal wood so the information is available if anyone needs it. --0icke0 (talk) 10:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't have anything to add here, but I wanted to let you know that I will be here in full force for the next few days as well. T-minus 4 hours and 15 minutes remaining. :).  Chrisf1020  (talk)  12:45, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chris, we'll definitely need all the help we can get :) Equazcion  ( talk ) 13:04, 30 Jun 2015 (UTC)

Unblock
Someone can unblock me? Thanks :)
 * If you're able to post this here, you shouldn't be blocked, and your IP has no previous entries on its block log. If you send me your other IP/username I could look into it. –KM100 (talk) 15:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I can post because i logged off, my username is YeedilDragon.
 * To my knowledge, you were globally blocked because of (recurrent) vandalism over at the Minecraft Wiki. I don't want to countermand Orthotope's decisions, but your contributions here seem to be positive. I'll leave the decision open for other admins. –KM100 (talk) 16:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I want to help with the 1.3 stuff. The vandalism on Minecraft Wiki are a mistake, i did not expect that the administrators block's me...
 * Unfortunately we wouldn't generally reverse blocks imposed at other wikis. You'll need to contact the administrators at Minecraft Wiki and see if they'll lift the block. Equazcion  ( talk ) 05:05, 2 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Article redundancy: Martian Saucer – Flying Saucer
I assume both of the aforementioned articles describe the same thing. Since both articles contain relevant informations not mentioned in the other article both should be merged while keeping the respective revision histories. --Viciarg (talk) 13:52, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * This has been taken care of. Flying Saucer is now a disambiguation page. Equazcion  ( talk ) 05:05, 2 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. – viciarg (talk) 08:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Music Page Error/ False Information
I recently attempted to edit the Music page to change some completely false information- but was not allowed because I had to remove a section in order to correct it.

See- where it says Boss 4 and Boss 5, the Boss 4 section is describing the Golem theme- which is actually included on the Soundtrack's second volume under the title "Golem".

What it was describing under the Boss 5 section is actually the Boss 4 theme- the one used for the Queen Bee, and for the Eye of Cthulhu and Ocram on the Console/Mobile ports.

If it's not clear precisely what change I am proposing- this image should sum it up. https://u.teknik.io/0ZkMzB.png


 * Done. –KM100 (talk) 19:37, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Ads
I've been trying to locate all weapons including 1.3's weapons and I was planning on using your site to find out what all the weapons were. I was using the weapons page which listed every weapon (but didn't really) and I couldn't scroll down the page because of an advertisement in the corner. After the ad finished I began scrolling down and the page went back to the top and rea=started the ad not letting me scroll. This happened 3 times before I posted this. As a server owner I can assure you unless this is fixed and fixed fast I will be recommending other wiki's. Thanks for your concern (this is also the first major issue I've had. The wiki has lost something with 1.3. It use to be so much better and much much faster).
 * The administrators here at the wiki have nothing to do with the ads displayed here; all of that is managed by the Curse staff, whom you should contact if you wish to do something about it. As for the longer load times, there's no surprise there. 1.3 was a huge update, so there are a lot more people contributing than before its release. –KM100 (talk) 00:03, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ads are served by Curse/Gamepedia, which hosts Terraria Wiki. Terraria update 1.3 wouldn't really have much to do with those (though perhaps there may have been some ad display changes that coincided with 1.3's release). We editors are just volunteers and don't control the ad choices nor how they're displayed. For the record, I agree that some of them can interfere with the site and I've personally experienced various technical issues resulting from them (when I've tested the site with full ad display). I'd suggest emailing wiki@curse.com, or try their forum, to resolve any problems you might be having, or to express general feedback. Equazcion  ( talk ) 00:07, 13 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Spam on community noticeboard
Terraria_Wiki:Community_noticeboard is currently getting hit by an automated spambot every couple of minutes. Can we get a temporary protection on the page please? -- SDGlyph (talk) 13:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Interwiki file
I don't know why you delete file that used in Russian Wiki. I think about files that can use in another language section. I think it's be ignored by Equazcion.

My request: Merge deleted version of to Russian section with same name. ← Alex Great talk 13:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought I checked for foreign uses before I deleted each in that batch, but I guess I must have neglected to with that one. Sorry. I've just restored it. Equazcion  ( talk ) 00:06, 24 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't see usage in other project, I thought that you make javascript that display file usage. Why it brokes? ← Alex Great talk 06:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to click the "list foreign uses" link at the top. They don't display automatically. Equazcion  ( talk ) 07:10, 24 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Interwikis
I want to add interwikis in a template. But my edit brokes with filter "Test Language Filter" on protected talk page of template. And I add my message at this topic. Please add interwikis at next templates: fr:Modèle:! ko:틀:! pl:Szablon:! pt:Predefinição:! ru:Шаблон:! zh:Template:! ← Alex Great talk 09:11, 31 July 2015 (UTC) fr:Modèle:!! pl:Szablon:!! pt:Predefinição:!! ru:Шаблон:!! zh:Template:!! ← Alex Great talk 09:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC) fr:Modèle:!- ko:틀:!- pl:Szablon:!- pt:Predefinição:!- ru:Шаблон:!- zh:Template:!- ← Alex Great talk 09:32, 31 July 2015 (UTC) fr:Modèle:- ko:틀:- pl:Szablon:- pt:Predefinição:- ru:Шаблон:- zh:Template:- ← Alex Great talk 09:44, 31 July 2015 (UTC) fr:Modèle:= ko:틀:= pl:Szablon:= pt:Predefinição:= ru:Шаблон:= zh:Template:= ← Alex Great talk 09:58, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. I created those talk pages for the future, just in case. Equazcion  ( talk ) 10:06, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but this is not full list.

fr:Modèle:• ko:틀:• pl:Szablon:• pt:Predefinição:• ru:Шаблон:• zh:Template:• ← Alex Great talk 12:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Chinese Wiki
Wow. We have new Language section of Wiki? This is http://terraria-zhcn.gamepedia.com/. I think it's Simplified Chinese language. is'nt it? ← Alex Great talk 12:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * By Meta.Wikimedia standarts, I think, website must be renamed:

Interwikis must renamed also (in all exited language section). 12:20, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * http://terraria-zhtw.gamepedia.com/ to http://terraria-lzh.gamepedia.com/ (because "lzh" is classical chinese used for example in Taiwan ("tw" mean Taiwan; "zh-calssical" that used in Wikipedia is non-standart code, new official code is "lzh").
 * http://terraria-zhcn.gamepedia.com/ to http://terraria-zh.gamepedia.com/ (because "zh" is simplified chinese used in Mainland of China ("cn" mean China)
 * At this time Game widow create section. ← Alex Great talk 12:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The basics are now mostly in place, including the interwiki prefixes — Game widow (talk) 12:30, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you will rename web-site language code, that I noticed above? Because at this time "zh" prefix is mistake, because "zh" fully is zhcn. When we have one chinese section we don't care about it. But at this time we have two chinese wikis. And I think that we need correct interwikis. ← Alex Great talk 12:33, 31 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Updating to new "official" codes might be more trouble than it's worth. The language codes don't come into play for readers or editors such that some official code standard would be expected, nor lack of it affect anything. And, changing existing codes would mess with a lot of existing interwiki links. Plus, the zhcn interwiki link already translates to "Chinese (Mainland China)".


 * But, yes, there's now a new language wiki (thanks Game widow!). See Terraria Wiki:Community noticeboard. I'll be putting up a couple more notices soon, with links. Equazcion  ( talk ) 12:34, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * My congratulations to new section users. And sorry for offtop. ← Alex Great talk 12:43, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I add zhcn:Terraria Wiki to Main Page of Russian section. But it can't display in sidebar. Game widow can you fix it? Thanks. 12:45, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Use zh-cn. Equazcion  ( talk ) 12:49, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Umm scratch that. Lemme get things sorted out, I'll post a notice when we're ready to go with interwiki links. Equazcion  ( talk ) 12:53, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay this should work now. Use zh-cn. Equazcion  ( talk ) 12:59, 31 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Yap. Thanks, it's work. ← Alex Great talk 13:11, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm also quite happy to run a bot to cleanup/standardise the prefixes (on all the terraria wikis) once you decide on the "final" version — Game widow (talk) 14:00, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * My opinion is: Change "zh" and "zhtw" (if used) to "lzh" as priority prefix for Traditional Chinese. And then change "zh-cn" and "zhcn" to "zh" as pririrty prefix for Simplified Chinese. I think guyz from META agree with me, because its corrected language codes. You can also ask users of both wikis, maybe they have new opinion. But do not forget that China does not recognize Taiwan as a state. But China considers Taiwan occupier mainland China. The same can happen when a question on the existence of two sections, and anyone of them assign a prefix "zh" because both is "Zhongguo" (中國 vs 中国). ← Alex Great talk 16:21, 31 July 2015 (UTC)