Forum talk:Video Policy Discussion/archive/@comment-4026446-20120210085521/@comment-4674838-20120210111718

You are right in that 1 youtuber should not be the focus of the discussion. However, aside from yourself, there is no other Terraria youtuber with such fame or following as Yrimir. If traffic is important to the discussion, as you have clearly indicated, then Yrimir is specifically important to the discussion--very few Terraria youtubers have the kind of traffic/following that he does, and there are good reasons for this.

"To specifically try to force in 1 youtuber who have very strong ties with the other wiki is to try and force traffic to the other wiki." -- Yrimir does not have strong ties with any wiki. Unless you have evidence after the manner of mine above, Yrimir's videos would not send traffic to the other wiki. In fact, having Yrimir here would be more likely to lead to increased traffic for our wiki, given his popularity.

"No matter who they are, promoting youtubers who promote the competition is a bad decision regardless of who they are." -- As has been stated before, Yrimir isn't trying to promote the competition, he's just promoting the game. Were we to partner with him, it's possible that he might start promoting our wiki a bit as well.

I understand that you want to move the discussion away from Yrimir. This is fine so long as it's addressed fairly. So far, I see the fair words of Yrimir, Happypal (who I suppose you wouldn't count) and myself lined up against yours on the topic of Yrimir, and I have provided evidence to back up my points. Additionally, things previously said by Dzylon ("I must side with Hero that direct and frequent promotion of Terraria Online in the video is not preferable, but such content should not make the video illegible for inclusion on the wiki.") and Shadow Wolf TJC ("I find that other people's videos are even more helpful, particularly when it comes to videos that cover the more less-known or niche things in Terraria") appear to line up in favor of Yrimir.

I suggest that we hear from more people before we sweep such a well-developed topic under the rug by only your words. It has already been decided that you and your videos will qualify here on the wiki, so it's not right to give one youtuber (you) preferential treatment when it comes to the order of talking about youtubers and creating the policy.

Yrimir's knack for creativity is something that I very much support. Do I want to see other youtubers and other tutorials on this wiki? Absolutely. Do I want every single video on this wiki to be a tutorial? No. I fear that putting Yrimir aside would 1) leave our wiki with a great lack of creativity and 2) the wiki would remain your personal fanclub, because all of these other youtubers you want to talk about are greatly eclipsed by you when it comes to popularity. Yrimir is one of the few people out there who has traffic/following closest to matching yours.

If there are any "personal agendas" or "ulterior motives" at play here as you are suggesting--given the things said here and what you've said and done previously--you, Hero, would be the first one accused of having them.