User talk:Gearzein

Trivia rollbacks
Before resorting to protection or blocks, please put the reason for the revert in a summary first. If they see only a rollback, they might not actually understand why their edit is being considered invalid, or even that you're enforcing a rule rather than being arbitrary/opinionated. I created the trivia redirect so it would be easy to point to the trivia rules during undos. Thanks. Equazcion ( talk ) 23:10, 20 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * If you're referring to The Meatball, that's a strange case that admittedly may be me being paranoid (and by extension acting in bad faith). Certain patterns, particularly the editor's immediate change in IP to the next available in the range, just lead me to believe that this is someone I've dealt with before. This may just be indicative that I handled it badly then too, but hey. Gearzein (talk) 23:23, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's definitely possible trolling. This does refer to The Meatball, but also other trivia-type rollbacks that I've seen be explanation-less. It's good to have a descriptive edit summary on the record either way for any particular situation, especially before other measures are taken for further such edits. Equazcion  ( talk ) 23:34, 20 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Duplicate images
If you're deleting all the duplicates uploaded for the Chinese translation, know that Noyastary has already uploaded a bunch also. Equazcion ( talk ) 03:41, 21 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Jeez. I'll take care of those, but apparently Curse's servers are overloaded or something and can only handle four deletions at a time. Batches take a while, so in the interim between deletions, I'm writing up a general notice on the Chinese translation project page, since it seems to have picked up quite a bit of steam in a short time. Do you think that'd be a solid idea, and if so do you want me to run it by you before I publish it? Gearzein (talk) 03:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * There seems to a language barrier preventing them from really understanding the notes we've been giving them about how this is supposed to work -- so I'm not sure that the notice will help, but it might. You can go ahead and post it, I may edit it afterward. Equazcion  ( talk ) 03:56, 21 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I'd assume that translators could speak both languages well enough to communicate ideas fluidly from one to the other, but there does seem to be a breakdown in communication somewhere. It feels like there might just be more of them than we can account for, so contacting them as a group may have some effect that individual notices can't. It's worth a shot, I figure. Gearzein (talk) 04:02, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Goblin Summoner

 * Discussion moved to Talk:Goblin Summoner -- Equazcion  ( talk ) 23:39, 23 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Let's take a breath here. Things may be getting heated but InfiniteMarioMaster hasn't engaged in any personal attacks or even attempted to re-institute the edit while the discussion is ongoing, so there's not much reason to "take action" (assuming Gearzein meant administrative action).


 * The Goblin Summoner was the only hard enemy added to the Goblin Invasion in 1.3, so like the Flying Dutchman, it should be considered a "boss" or "mini-boss". It also drops several unique/powerful items. Several Youtube videos refer to it as a boss.
 * The Goblin Summoner's design doesn't offer any traditional clues to it being boss-like, such as a Trophy (it drops a Banner instead), spawn/death messages, large size, multiple parts or forms, or astronomical health/damage; so it shouldn't be referred to as a "boss" or "mini-boss".

This, I think, is where the evidence stands, so let's not repeat those anymore. Declaring that "I'm right" or "You're wrong" is never helpful, and if that's what the discussion has devolved to, it's time to let it sit and wait for other opinions. I'm going to leave a note at the community noticeboard to try and attract new participants, and I'm also going to move this entire discussion to (Talk:Goblin Summoner), which might help emphasize that this discussion is about the game and not about any particular editors. Until some new people have had a chance to discuss this a little, I would ask that neither of you (plus myself) post any new comments to this discussion.

PS. InfiniteMarioMaster, if you could sign your comments, it would help us out. Instead of saying "From IMM" at the top, please place four tildes at the end of your comments ( ~ ) which will automatically place a standard signature there. Thanks. Equazcion ( talk ) 23:28, 23 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Translation assistance
I want to help turkish translations. How i do translate pages? Cgndz (talk) 12:41, 23 July 2015 (UTC)?
 * I've left you a message on your talk page. Gearzein (talk) 18:42, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Email
Do you have an email address I could contact you at? If you don't want to announce it here you can enter it in preferences and enable the email option, which will hide your actual email address. Or if you don't want to do that either let me know. Thanks. Equazcion ( talk ) 16:42, 24 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * Turns out I had an email on file, I just hadn't confirmed it yet. You should be able to contact me now. I hope I'm not in too much trouble. Gearzein (talk) 16:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Nah nothing like that. Thanks :) Equazcion  ( talk ) 17:02, 24 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Cultist Trivia
Is it possible to edit a new trivia about cultists origin or would it refer too much to the first topic? -prometheanrazerPrometheanrazer (talk) 00:33, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If you're referring to this revert then there's no problem strictly with adding a new trivia piece. Most of why it was reverted is that it completely overwrote the meaning of an already sourced trivia point. If the intention was to remove or contest that point by suggesting another origin, the fact that the current trivia links directly to a developer comment makes that impossible.
 * The other reason it was reverted, though, is because Lovecraft doesn't have sole claim to the idea of a cult, and it's incorrect to say that "cultists" alone are a Lovecraftian allusion, much less a creation of his. I expressed as much in the edit summary for that revert. If that's the trivia you're re-adding, it'll likely be removed again before long if it's not significantly reworked in meaning- even if I leave it, someone else will inevitably contest it, just because of how much of a long shot it is to outright say that Lovecraft invented cultists and that they exist primarily in the context of Cthulhu. Gearzein (talk) 00:42, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Bugs
Are the bug lists gone from the wiki articles?
 * Yes they're gone. Equazcion  ( talk ) 17:39, 27 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Map viewers rollback
I understand the rollback of the edit made to the TEdit section since it's mostly a fork and I really didn't like linking to a Dropbox URL for the binary package. It was mostly so people actually could get a 1.3 compatible version until BinaryConstruct updated the original. What I don't get is why the previous edit was also rolled back as it only included updated version of the other tools, and a few new links to the developer's GitHub page (although I did made a mistake linking MoreTerra to CodePlex). Actually, now that I write this down, I think there might have been quite a few mistakes leading you to believe it was all wrong. But I checked again and the rest was accurate so I'm wondering if I can reinstate the updated versions (except for TEdit) or if the rollback actually stems from something else? Lepaperwan (talk) 09:15, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I reinstated your version updates. Have a look and check if any of those errors you mentioned are still there. Thanks :) Equazcion  ( talk ) 10:04, 28 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Hoverboard speed boost
Where did you get that 233% value from? Equazcion ( talk ) 19:16, 28 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't recall adding that value myself. Gearzein (talk) 19:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Apparently you didn't, I somehow confused your last revert for that. My mistake. Equazcion  ( talk ) 19:49, 28 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * It's worth noting that Icke was the one who made those changes. They're probably not just pulled from nowhere- I'd ask before removing them. Gearzein (talk) 20:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That was actually from when he reverted his own erroneous edit, see User talk:0icke0. The value was there from a while back, not sure exactly when. In my test the speed was almost exactly the same hovering vs. diagonal. Equazcion  ( talk ) 21:04, 28 Jul 2015 (UTC)
 * My mistake this time then. Gearzein (talk) 21:56, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Penetrating Weapons
Sorry, my bad. 23:32, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey there!
I've noticed the notable amount of work you put into this wiki. It's impressive; it seems to me you're currently Terraria Wiki's most dedicated admin. As such I'd like to thank you for your contributions! I used to be very active here myself; though I don't have as much time anymore I still drop in now and then to edit a bit. If there's something you'd like some help with then do feel free to ask! NoseOfCthulhu (talk) 20:11, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Aw, thanks! I wouldn't say I'm necessarily the most dedicated- maybe the most stubborn, but the quality of the work put into keeping this place running outshines my efforts to keep it clean. At the risk of sounding like boilerplate, the wiki needs all the help it can get. I'm familiar with your work (mostly because you have the most vandalized userpage on the entire wiki) and it's cool to have experienced users who know their way around and still care enough to contribute.
 * I'm actually pretty busy myself lately, so my presence is limited too. Even so, as a sysop, I can extend you the same courtesy. I can't actually say that I'm at your disposal for admin stuff, as that's tantamount to collusion, but if you ever need someone to churn out a long, droning paragraph, you know where to find me. Gearzein (talk) 07:09, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Just a question about walls
Hi Gearzein, I would like to know if it's important to put on blocks and walls pages in "recipe" and "used for" the same reversed thing ? --  Dinoxel  discussion  17:46, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You're asking me personally? If I had to say, I think it's pretty stupid in terms of functionality, but there's not a quick and clean way of demonstrating that they can be crafted both ways. It can't be treated as a blanket statement, because not all walls can be crafted into a block.
 * Someone did suggest treating crafted walls as subsections of their host blocks once, that might work. Gearzein (talk) 04:49, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, if I well understood this should be put only on the block page ? --  Dinoxel  discussion  12:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
Just happened to notice a lot of your edits lately (could be a time zone thing, shrug... I'm at UTC+8), so just popped in to say good job and thanks! Eh, I guess I'm in a nostalgic mood lately. - Spinfx (talk) 12:04, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'd also like to congratulate you on the work you've been doing around here, particularly with the guides. I'm way busier than I used to be lately, but I try to keep up on what's going on around here, so if you need any help with things, feel free to let me know. Gearzein (talk) 04:13, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Icon links and Dragon armor IDs
I've run across a few things I'd be glad if you could help me out on:
 * I think the platform icons -, , - would serve their purpose better if they included links to their respective articles. Here is the markup needed (for copy-paste) if you agree. Note that I've also added two categories.

desktop:



console:



mobile:



iOS:



Amazon:



Android:



Google:



Windows Phone:




 * Some time ago I made the hassle with adding item IDs to mobile version items. I was unable to do this with the Dragon armor as it, for some reason, has its own protected page for the armor pieces.

Dragon armor/Stats:

NoseOfCthulhu (talk) 22:53, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Seaweed Reference
I hadn't seen the wiki rules. I have now read them, and I apologize for my behavior. I should have checked to see if there was a list of rules before attempting to make edits. That said, I do still believe that the reference is an accurate one, according to the second bullet point which is that if no developer confirmation is available, it must be an "undeniable" reference. That is, of course, a tricky word, but the definition given is that "most players are likely to agree it is obvious." I think this does describe the reference. When I first saw the propeller, my first thought was immediately of Tank. I pointed it out to my friend, and he said that it had been his first thought when he first saw the turtle as well. According to the page's edit history, the reference seems to keep coming up, meaning that we can't be the only two; it seems like an obvious reference to the people that keep editing it. In addition, there is a reference on the Party Girl page (cited to one of the developers) saying that she's based off of Pinkie Pie, who is also from My Little Pony: Friendship is magic. That's not a reference that I would have seen as obviously as Tank, Doctor Bones, etc., but it does show that at least one reference to the show is in the game. Superstars111 (talk) 06:50, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been had before, and I've made my standing on it clear in what is honestly an embarrassing level of detail. Just as many users have removed this point as have added it, so it's clearly not consensus. I don't even necessarily mean that to disprove you- even if I allow it this time, it'll be removed again by someone else, and this same debate will begin and end inconclusively for a fourth or fifth time because everyone would rather fight it out through debate than just get the proof that would settle it once and for all. I'm not actually the one demanding a source, nor are the rules- if you don't have something enforceable, it's just going to attract the same kind of controversy. Gearzein (talk) 08:24, 23 November 2015 (UTC)