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Video Policy

Hey Dzylon,

I was wondering; do you think it would be a good idea to let anyone add videos, but then use Terraria Wiki:Proposed Videos for videos which have been deemed controversial for whatever reason (edit warring, quality concerns, etc.)?

Something like that just happened on the Vampire Knives page, and I directed the users to post their videos there, so I figured it would be a good idea to ask the other admins before making it official (and thus making the Proposed Videos page more visible somehow).

Thanks, Oscuritaforze (talk) 05:23, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I updated the Video Policy with the new information for now (also made a note of it in the community message to the right of Special:WikiActivity). Feel free to change it/open a new discussion on it as you see fit; I thought it would be best to update it now rather than move on without a Video Policy for too much longer during the height of the update hype.
Oscuritaforze (talk) 21:47, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Some changes

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(Also, would it be possible to use your bot to remove manually-added categories from pages which were already automatically added by templates? (More detail can be found in this thread.) Thanks, Oscuritaforze (talk) 02:46, November 9, 2013 (UTC))

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Navigation buttons on mainpage


How do you make those navigation buttons? And how do you make them light up when moused over?

SilverHexxitFights (talk) 18:37, November 10, 2013 (UTC)SilverHexxitFights

See Template:MainpageCategories?action=edit. In each table cell (td element), there's an image, an invisible link, and a real link. Now see Mediawiki:Common.css, under "Styling for Template:MainpageCategories". Each invisible link is filled with a hell overlay image. When a td is hovered over, CSS is used to reveal the invisible link, covering up the image with an overlay. DzylonTalk19:53November 10, 2013
Okay, thanks.
SilverHexxitFights (talk) 20:31, November 10, 2013 (UTC)


I just noticed that DPSOnly put "DPSOnly was here" on the Pirate page. I fixed it. I was pretty sure it was vandalism, so I let you know.

SilverHexxitFights (talk) 20:04, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't vandalism; I asked on chat for someone to edit the Pirate page to make sure that this template was working properly. DPSOnly was the first one to respond. Sorry for the confusion.
Oscuritaforze (talk) 20:10, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Template:Hardmode Only

I've created a new template to place after, for example, Rusty Armored Bones on the Dungeon page. It states that this item/block/feature/monster is Hardmode only. It can be placed like this:

{{Hardmode Only}}

Here's what it looks like:


And here's the link:

Template:Hardmode Only

What do you think of it? Should we start using it? I hesitate to place it on pages before getting permission.

SilverHexxitFights (talk) 18:59, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Looks good to me! You don't have to ask permission to introduce a new template, though (unless you're going to be making a lot of changes at once). If there's a problem, somebody will remove it or start a discussion about it.
However, there are some errors in your template. The code you used was this:
<font color=#c70000><small>(Hardmode)</small><font color=#030303>
Which, when broken down into multiple lines, is this:
<font color=#c70000>
<font color=#030303>
See the issue? Instead of closing the font tag, you opened a new one at the end. That last line should just be "</font>".
Also, the "font" and "small" tags are deprecated in HTML5. CSS (invoked by the "style" attribute) should be used instead. The best version of that code would be
<span style="color:#c70000; font-size:small">(Hardmode)</span>
DzylonTalk23:58November 12, 2013

Your sig

I actually just copied your sig template to my userspace, when I realized you might not want me using it. So Ill ask it here.
I edited it to show my name, a link to my talk page, and something that automatically shows the date and time the signature was placed.
Latias1290 19:41, December 2, 2013 (UTC)
Edit: I wanted to ask this earlier, but forgot: Can you make your bot add all uncategorized images to the Category:Images category? Thx.
Latias1290 19:43, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

That's fine :). However, please copy my entire code and place this in your Special:Preferences "custom signature" box:
{{SUBST:#ifexist:User:Latias1290/Sig | {{SUBST:User:Latias1290/Sig|{{SUBST:#time: H:i}}|{{SUBST:#time: F d, Y}}}} | [[User:Latias1290|Latias1290]] [[User_talk:Latias1290|(Talk)]] {{SUBST:#time: H:i}}/{{SUBST:#time: F d, Y}} }}
Your current setup floods the source of the page, which is nasty for source editors.
Also, the image thing is not a huge priority for me right now because there are already plenty of file listing pages available (Special:ListFiles, Special:PrefixIndex, Special:AllPages). If I do do that, I'll also write a script that automatically adds new image files to the category so that it won't require constant maintenance. Sorry. DzylonTalk22:26December 02, 2013
I tried it multiple times doing exactly what you said, but I keep ending up with a string that shows the timestamp, which I dont really want. Do you use ~~~~ for putting your signature or do you write {{User:Dzylon/Sigreal|{{subst:#time: H:i}}|{{subst:#time: F d, Y}}? Latias1290Talk15:04December 04, 2013 15:04, December 4, 2013 (UTC)
I forgot to mention that you must use only three tildes when using this technique, not four. DzylonTalk21:48December 04, 2013
It works as I want now, but it still floods the source of the page. Also, at first I thought I needed to put
{{SUBST:#ifexist:User:Latias1290/Sig (...) }}
because that would stop the wikia software from putting the source of the template Im adding, and actually put the template reference there. But it doesnt seem to work like that...why do I need to put
{{SUBST:#ifexist:User:Latias1290/Sig (...) }}
PS: This reply is late because I got caught up in a game called Pokemon Y and beat it in 4 days, stopping only to eat, sleep, and other truly neccesary things :P
PSS: I actually came up with a funny trick involving having a template contain a reference to another template, and it works ideally. So thanks :) Latias1290Talk14:01December 09, 2013

Unused files cleanup

Hey Dzy,

I was talking with Oscuritaforze, and we need to start thinking about cleaning up Special:UnusedFiles, Special:UnusedVideos, and possibly a couple others like that. Would you be able to help out with this with your bot (not right away, but in not-too-distance future)?

Oscuritaforze mentioned that there may be some useful images that are unused, and suggested we do some sifting first rather than just mass delete them. I suggested creating custom delete buttons on those special pages, so we can do a review process where we glance at the thumbnail and then say 1-click delete based on best guess. Another option of course is we can just delete them all and hope nothing valuable went missing. What's your opinion here?

Also, what I'm really concerned about, how do you think this will affect the Image Database? In infoboxes we use 2 different icons, however only the version with the background appears in the Image Database. Do you recall if there's a file naming convention we have for the non-background sprites in the infoboxes? Are these non-background sprites easily available via an image dump (so if we accidentally delete some sprites during unused files cleanup, can they be easily reuploaded)?

20px_Rin_Tohsaka_Avatar.png Mathmagician ƒ(♫) 08:12 UTC, Tuesday, 10 December 2013

Hey, Math! Been a while, huh? Let's see here...
I don't want to use my bot to do any purely automatic deletions, but there are over a thousand unused files on the wiki. What would be nice is a script that allows you to drag boxes (like in Windows Explorer) over files in Special:UnusedFiles and related pages, automatically filling a textarea or something with the file names for bot input (the script would also allow single-file selection). I also see that I uploaded quite a few mod images that haven't been used yet. You see any point in keeping those?
With that system, the image database shouldn't be affected, nor should any infoboxes. Speaking of the image database, it seems to be quite a mess... visiting the page almost froze my system, and the lazy loader crashed. I'm not sure how that could be easily solved. And about naming conventions: I always named full furniture images "Tiles <item ID>"[1] and other "full files" whatever the normal image was named plus "o"[2].
In any case, I can't invest much time in the wiki until at least next week. DzylonTalk05:05December 12, 2013
Hey! Yeah, it's been a while. Hope you're doing well, I'll try to catch you on Steam sometime so maybe we can catch up a little bit.
Image Database ... yeah, it's a bit laggy. I'm guessing having a thousand odd row table doesn't help, and all the images. We should probably just give a list of all the filenames as links, without a table or images themselves. Maybe create a snippet of custom JS to load the image when you hover over it. Something with a smaller footprint so that you can actually load the page. Also, we should get those "Tiles" and "o" images added as well. But that's for the future. If you check out User_talk:Drkpanoz and my message there, he said that those regular images seem to be easy to image dump, so that's good to know. And the inventory images -- those seem to be in pretty good shape actually, I was able to load the image database and I see all the ones from the recent patch there.
Cleanup unused files: My w:c:dev:ListFiles script creates and auto-populates a text area with file page names at Special:UnusedFiles and a couple other special pages. Is that sufficient? I believe they're in a format can be input into a bot for automated deletion. It also works with the w:c:dev:AjaxBatchDelete script which I also use, so, in effect, I am a deletion bot with those 2 scripts. (Though preferably, your bot with the flag would do this so we don't flood recent changes when we delete all this stuff.) 20px_Rin_Tohsaka_Avatar.png Mathmagician ƒ(♫) 06:03 UTC, Thursday, 12 December 2013
ListFiles won't be much help here, I think, because it populates the text area with the names of all files. We're going to be saving quite a few of the unused files, right? Trimming down the list would be a pain. And, yeah, AjaxBatchDelete would be nice here. If all the people participating were using that script, there wouldn't be any need for the bot (which I don't think is capable of automatically mass-deleting pages anyway. When I used it for the comments, I was manually approving every deletion). Still, I could just log in with my bot account and then load up AjaxBatchDelete. DzylonTalk21:03December 12, 2013

Item Prefixes

Ello, another request for your bot: Can you please make redirect pages for all of the item prefixes, leading to Reforging?
I got a list containing all prefixes on seperate lines, without capitalization(I left those out because the wikia software automatically makes all file names capitalized. Right?), which Ill post down here:


Latias1290Talk14:02December 11, 2013

Taken care of! DzylonTalk05:05December 12, 2013

Bot Help

I had what is probably a simple question, given my level of coding expertise. How does one "tell" a bot what task to perform?

SilverHexxitFights (talk) 16:03, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

I only know how to use AutoWikiBrowser. You can find its user manual here, on Wikipedia. DzylonTalk22:27February 22, 2014

Breathing Reed 'outdated as of 1.2' for outdated sprites ...

... but when I compare the in-inventory slot pic with the one I took screenshot of, I can see that the uploaded one is made of extremely simple pixels and drawn better, which makes me wonder: Since -you- uploaded that one, how you made it look like that, among other things I should know about ? I make a small bet you didn't just make those pixels manually. Next, in the article is another pic of the Reed, how do I obtain that one ? I think I'm not meant to hack into the data files to get the stuff.

I suppose I should know all that already, but a noob in graphics is always a noob in graphics, and I learn best by asking.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rautamiekka (talkcontribs). Please sign talk page posts with ~~~~ (4 tildes).

I uploaded the 1.1.2 image sprites here. You just superimpose a particular sprite over the inventory slot image (found in that download as well). I use You make a new layer and drop the sprite in it, and keep the inventory slot image in the bottom layer. Center the top layer and merge them. DzylonTalk22:27February 22, 2014

*Can you help me?*

Hello Dzylon,

Can you help me? I would like to start playing:

1-I got a MacBookAir. How can i dowload the game?

2-How can I start to play with a group? 

Thanks a lot for your help!;-)


—Preceding unsigned comment added by EissturmBcn (talkcontribs). Please sign talk page posts with ~~~~ (4 tildes).

1 - I don't know how to play Terraria on a Mac.
2 - I don't remember exactly how to set up a Terraria server, and certainly not on a Mac.
You may find answers to these questions on the Terraria Online forum. DzylonTalk22:27February 22, 2014

*How long have you been in terraria wiki*

how long have you been in terraria wiki

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilekooper (talkcontribs). Please sign talk page posts with ~~~~ (4 tildes).

Since January 5, 2012. DzylonTalk22:27February 22, 2014

Disabling Achievements/Spam Blogs/other stuff

Hey Dzylon.

A couple of proposals:

Considering how we've had a large number of users creating low-content/spam blogs or otherwise farming for achievements over the past few months, I talked with a few users a little while ago (including Squazzil and TerrariamcSwaggins, among others) about potentially disabling achievements on this wiki. Would you have any particular objections if this were to happen? As I've expressed in the past, I feel like disabling achievements at this point would have minimal impact on a wiki of this size, so I'd like to think that the good in such a decision would outweigh the bad.

Additionally, do you think it would be a good idea to make a way for users on this site to propose new wiki policies? It has become more and more clear over time that there are some things (such as categories, the aforementioned blog posts, etc.) which desperately need to be regulated (or at least better explained), but there isn't really a way of doing that at the moment (there have been a couple of attempts at policy changes in the forums over the past few months, but they didn't really yield any results). What I had in mind for this purpose was creating a template like this one to be placed on the proposed policy page, then discussion about the policy would take place at Terraria Wiki talk:Policy. If need be, we could update MediaWiki:Community-corner, MediaWiki:Communitymessages-notice-msg, and MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation to make new policy proposals more visible.

Let me know what you think!

Oscuritaforze (talk) 01:43, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

I'm fine with disabling achievements. You've been much more active than I have, and if you feel that disabling achievements would have a positive net effect on the wiki, I can't oppose you.
A system for new policy proposals seems like a good idea to me. DzylonTalk22:17February 22, 2014
Pretty much everyone I talked to about it agreed, so achievements have been disabled*.
More importantly, the Proposed Policy template has been implemented (and mentioned in the MediaWiki pages I linked above, explained in Terraria Wiki:Policy, etc...)! I ended up creating a proposal for changes to the Image Policy in order to test it out, which can be found here. Feel free to comment on it if you have time. :)
*(Interesting aside about achievements: apparently, if we ever want to re-enable them, they would not actually be fully reset – instead, they would be in the state they were in when they were last disabled. Something to keep in mind if the proposed policy...policy works as planned.)
Oscuritaforze (talk) 22:22, March 7, 2014 (UTC)


Sorry of that seems weird, Dzylon, (because we've never met before) but I've seen your reply on the Community Central forum about the background on a userpage. I tried it, but it doesn't work, have I done it wrong ?

I've put this exact code; {<br />background: url("");<br />}



Try this: { background: url("") } 
DzylonTalk22:17September 09, 2014

Help with a Bot

Hi there Dzy, are you still alive? It would be nice to see you around again!

Anyways, Oscuritaforze and I are planning on setting up a couple bots similiar to yours for the wiki. This will allow us to take care of some of the more tedious tasks. Do you mind giving me (and Forze, if he needs it) a few tips or possibly a short beginners guide?

I have been reading the manual for it and it's quite helpful, but I was looking for some advice from an expert on the subject.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

TerrariamcSwaggins (talk) 01:50, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Boy, this is quite an old post, isn't it? Sorry about that :(
If I can still help, maybe we could all meet up in chat sometime. DzylonTalk22:20September 09, 2014
Haha, don't worry about it! I've been pretty busy lately so I've currently put my bot-learning on hold. Not sure about Forze, though. I think he's doing a Pywikibot. Anyways, I suppose I could let you know a time we could meet up in the future. Thanks!
TerrariamcSwaggins (Those who are victorious plan effectively and change decisively. They are like a great river that maintains its course but adjusts its flow.) (Talk Page) 22:29, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Manual of Style

Hey Dzy. Been busy, I take it?

Anyway, you may or may not have noticed, but there is currently (finally!) a discussion going on regarding implementing a manual of style on this wiki. Considering how this is a particularly major policy change (based on the discussion from a few years back on the testing wiki), your input would be greatly appreciated (if you have the time to give it, of course)!

Thanks, Oscuritaforze (talk) 20:45, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Looks like I missed it. Sorry about that. DzylonTalk22:32September 09, 2014


hi Dzylon!

i got i problem with the new minimap/map it says it is disabled and when i make it enable it goes back to disabled so i cant use it and really wants to have so plz could you help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hansen97 (talkcontribs). Please sign talk page posts with ~~~~ (4 tildes).

Sorry, I don't know much about 1.2. Somebody at Board:Game Help might be able to help you. DzylonTalk22:32September 09, 2014


Hey, FrenchTouch here.
Thanks for the code, I was having much trouble about it and now it may finally work, so thank you!
FrenchTouch (talk).

Update info template

Hey Dzy.

Would you mind looking at/commenting on this when/if you get the chance to?

Thanks. Oscuritaforze (talk) 08:11, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

I know nothing of the UpdateInfo template (Math's design), and I've got finals today and tomorrow, but if I have time (and yall haven't already got it sorted out by then) I'll take a look. DzylonTalk10:17March 02, 2015
Fair enough, and (retroactively, by now?) good luck on finals! Oscuritaforze (talk) 23:03, March 2, 2015 (UTC)
They went well, thanks! How about this: Template:Info, Template:Info/test DzylonTalk03:58March 03, 2015
Also, is there ever any whitespace in parameters when the template is used? I noticed the current template uses trim when preparing the links, but strangely, nowhere else (except at the start). I assume there's never any whitespace, and if that's the case I should be able to remove those trims altogether, simplifying the template a bit more. DzylonTalk04:15March 03, 2015
Whoa, that looks excellent. To wit:
  • Significantly more compact code-wise than the version I put together,
  • no longer uses the #ifexist parser,
  • uses the same syntax upon transclusion as the current version of the template (thus minimizing/nullifying necessary cleanup work), and
  • only fails to display properly under very specific and unlikely circumstances*.
*Only when the second character in a parameter which is intended to be a version indicator is not a period (ie. 12.0.0), or vice-versa.
And yeah, I believe you are right about leading/trailing whitespace never being used in the parameters of the update info template. I guess they were originally put in to give new users a small amount of margin for error, but I find that new users don't tend to use the template anyway, so removing those instances of the trim template probably wouldn't actually hurt much.
Oscuritaforze (talk) 05:54, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
Dang, looks like it's required to not break the links. I did thin it down some, though. And the ifeq method should be fine as long as Red doesn't adopt Mozilla's "rapid release" policy.
Good idea trying to get rid of ifexist, by the way. I remember reading about how terrible it is to the servers. DzylonTalk07:06March 03, 2015

(Reset indentation) Oh, that makes sense now that I think about it. When the trim templates were removed, I assume the leading spaces were added into the link (ie. "|   1.0.5" would produce [[PC    1.0.5]])?

And yeah, #ifexist being an expensive parser which can only be used so many times per page is one of the reasons I thought it would be a good idea to phase it out of this particular template (as clever as its use in said template was). Another reason was that I was updating MediaWiki:Recentchangestext and wanted to include a link to Special:Wantedpages...but that special page is rendered utterly useless by the current version of the update info template.

Anyway, it doesn't seem like there would be a downside to putting the template you created into effect, so I will probably end up doing so a little later today. Oscuritaforze (talk) 23:16, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, it may be about a week and half later than I had originally anticipated, but the update info template has itself been updated. I also made some changes to how said template automatically categorizes pages (will finish fixing categorization once Special:Wantedcategories updates) and made Template:ConsoleUpdateInfo dependent on it as a meta template.

However, the reason I was a bit late with the updates may still be a problem. The original intent was to also convert Template:MobileUpdateInfo to be dependent on Template:UpdateInfo, but considering how much of a convoluted mess the mobile version's update history is – both in general (in that there are four separate mobile "sub-versions" on different platforms with different patch numbering schemes) and on the actual page for it here – such a change seems like it would be significantly more difficult than I originally thought, if it is even viable at all.

I'm...not quite sure where I'm going with this, but I thought I'd let you know nonetheless.

Oscuritaforze (talk) 02:25, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. I don't know about combining the mobile and PC templates, or making a meta-template, but it should be possible to at least get rid of #ifexist in the mobile template. I'll take a more thorough look at those when I have time. DzylonTalk02:57March 20, 2015

Rights nomination

Hey Dzy.

This slipped my mind while you were in chat, but would you mind having a look at/closing this rights nomination? Discussion there has pretty much wound down, and I thought experimenting with having an admin who has not voted on a particular non-unanimous nomination being the one to close it (ie. the Wikipedia principle of uninvolved admins) might be something we should try.

Thanks. Oscuritaforze (talk) 02:42, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Edit War

Checkin' around the pages, some fellas named Jzberry40 (I think) and DieGo 82 have been having edit wars over defense totals on Chlorophyte Armor and Hallowed Armor. I haven't checked, but it appears to have been causing some serious animosity.

652Graystripe Talk page Contributions Edit count 22:55, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

Looks like Path already addressed it.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻Swaggins ~ (The Terrarian Bugle) ~ (Contact me)┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) ~ 23:21, March 30, 2015 (UTC)
thank you mcswaggins. I just want to clarify what was going on. As said, user Jzberry40 edited the hallowed armor page and several others containing info on said armor. Upon checking I found out his info was incorrect and thus reversed his edit. This led to said "war". I have no animosity towards Jzberry, I just noticed the false info and tried to rectify. If I did something wrong, please feel free to tell me, I'll try to contain myself in the future. Thanks DieGo 82 (talk) 23:45, March 30, 2015 (UTC)


Hey Dzy,

By the looks of things, the edit which PhantomPurpleMan made to the main page was through the "new" visual editor. As a result, there is a strong chance (especially given the other content of the edit) that the major content removal that occurred there was a bug with the editor said user was working with, as has been known to happen, especially on pages which utilize complex coding.

In light of this, if you don't have any objections, I'm going to unblock this user in favor of just giving him a notice about previewing/showing changes before publishing edits. Oscuritaforze (talk) 20:08, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

That's new. I saw you mentioned requesting that it be disabled - did anything ever come of that? Did you change your mind?
The NOWYSIWYG magic word apparently doesn't work with the Visual Editor. I'll look for some other way to disable it on select pages. Thanks for unblocking him. DzylonTalk20:41April 06, 2015
I did end up sending staff an email about the whole issue, but they told me that the option in Special:WikiFeatures which corresponds to the visual editor (which I screenshotted in the thread above) only affects the default editor (ie. what you get when you press the "Edit" button) for logged in users who have set the editor in their user preferences to "Default". However, this was a while ago, and I'm noticing that both the user preference the staff member mentioned and the option in WikiFeatures no longer exist.
Looking back through the email they sent, it sounds like they could disable the visual editor if it is causing frequent problems. At the time, it was only causing one or two bad edits every month or so, so I did abandon the idea of disabling it for a while, yeah. Given the most recent problem and the fact that it was on the main page, though, I think now might be the best time to see about disabling it if we want to and it would still be possible.
Oscuritaforze (talk) 20:58, April 6, 2015 (UTC)
Hi Seth,
Thanks for contacting Wikia. Disabling the visual editor is not something we are offering anymore. To disable that would be to remove a core functionality of the Wikia service. If you're encountering any bugs that you feel are hurting the editor on the wiki, or you have any suggestions for how you think it can be improved, you're welcome to send them our way and we'll make sure the Engineering Team and Product Team (respectively) have that information.
Thanks, and feel free to let us know if you need anything else.
Which is about what I figured. First a feature is optional, then optional but default, then mandatory. I'll continue looking for the best way to disable it on pages like the home page. DzylonTalk21:07April 06, 2015
So I heard back from staff on this issue. The first thing to note is that NOWYSIWYG not working on the new visual editor is intended behavior:
"The NOWYSIWYG magic word only applies to the old classic editor's visual mode - since the new VisualEditor differs from it greatly (and should be able to cope with almost all things thrown at it), there is no equivalent for the new tool."
For another thing, staff seemed to think that the problems with the edit made by PhantomPurpleMan were not actually caused by issues with the visual editor. After running some tests myself, I'm actually inclined to agree – none of the test edits I made through the visual editor caused the kind of content removal found in the edit which started this issue.
Oscuritaforze (talk) 01:03, April 9, 2015 (UTC)


I figured the same, but assume good faith, right? DzylonTalk01:37April 09, 2015

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